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#103571 - 07/01/07 08:30 AM Re: ****The OFFICIAL Comicon Totally Off-Topic Wrestling Thread****
G Allan Holcomb Offline
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Registered: 08/24/99
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It's July 2007 and that means the Ring Of Honor's first (of Six at least) PPVs will be broadcast this month more than a few times. Being a technophobe I don't know where to point you to find it, Sorry.

My buds and I usually watch and ROH DVD with Pink Lemonade and take out Mexican food.

I was at the taping, it was a great show, but the crowd was a little dead for the Roderick Strong Match. The PPV is two hours but the show was nearly 4 hours.

Check it out.

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#103572 - 07/08/07 06:47 PM Re: ****The OFFICIAL Comicon Totally Off-Topic Wrestling Thread****
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#103573 - 07/10/07 07:35 AM Re: ****The OFFICIAL Comicon Totally Off-Topic Wrestling Thread****
G Allan Holcomb Offline
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I have dial-up so I can't watch the video. Discussion looks like it's Chris Hero. I hate him. He needs to goto a gym. He need to learn a wrestling move and he needs to execute his moveset quicker. The guys receiving his moves have to stand dazed for ten seconds while he sets up a lame missile drop kick.

His gimmick is that he messes with the crowd. When he first invaded ROH he'd throw chairs into the crowd, sometime throwing from behind the crowd before he arrived to the ring. I vowed that if he hurt anybody I was with, or me, that I'd call it assault and kill him.

He gets a lot of heat, but it's the "I hate you and you're wasting our time and I paid to see wrestling not you" heat.

He wasn't at the first ROH PPV so you don't have to worry.
And he's on the first Chikara show in Connecticut (7/24ish) and It's bathroom break and concession stand time during his match.

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#103574 - 07/12/07 03:47 PM Re: ****The OFFICIAL Comicon Totally Off-Topic Wrestling Thread****
Frank Carrera Offline
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A DAMN good post by Ken Kennedy.

I haven't posted anything about the media attention the Beniot thing has created. Ken Kennedy's post hit the nail on the head.

Thoughts?

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#103575 - 07/12/07 06:29 PM Re: ****The OFFICIAL Comicon Totally Off-Topic Wrestling Thread****
dershocka Offline
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I agreed with every word.

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#103576 - 07/13/07 12:04 PM Re: ****The OFFICIAL Comicon Totally Off-Topic Wrestling Thread****
Rusty Cage Offline
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I'm going guess that Kennedy wrote that blog in between mowing Vince McMahon's lawn and picking up his cleaning.

First of all, the reason all of those "goofs" were on the talking head shows is because WWE was not making their current talent available (until they finally put Cena on Larry King). They were basically hoping this would just go away, but it hasn't.

Second, apparently Kennedy doesn't understand the steroid policy. Here it is:

WWE News
Benoit Story: Definition of a "negative" or "positive" test for steroids in WWE
By Wade Keller, Torch editor
Jul 12, 2007, 14:24


The following is straight out of WWE's Wellness Policy regarding steroid testing.

11. DEFINITION OF A POSITIVE TEST

1. A Testosterone/Epitestosterone (T/E) ratio above ten (10) shall be conclusively regarded as a positive test result.

2. A Testosterone/Epitestosterone (T/E) ratio greater than four (4) but less than ten (10) shall require follow-up testing and/or medical evaluation to determine if the test shall be interpreted as positive for the active use of Testosterone or evidence of other steroids influencing the T/E ratio.

3. A Testosterone/Epitestosterone (T/E) ratio of four (4) or less shall be regarded as a negative test result.


http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_20940.shtml

While WWE doesn't encourage steroid use, they leave a lot of wiggle room to still use them, and really, what do your eyes say?

What kind of culture do they encourage? Chris Masters disappears off TV for a couple of months, comes back considerably smaller, and Triple H (defacto management) makes fun of him on TV for having lost "50 pounds in 2 months".

Randy Orton appears on TV while rehabbing from a shoulder surgery, and Vince McMahon makes fun of how his "suit was practically hanging off him".

Then you look at the size of HHH and Vince, and of course that they've both had steriod related injuries. Vince blew two quads just getting in a ring. I mean, c'mon.

And Kennedy's comments about the schedule are silly. How long has he worked the schedule? He's been in WWE for two years, took around 6 months off for one injury, then another couple of months for another injury. Not to mention that schedule can only be judged over a long period of time...not by some guy who's been around for 2 years (even if he managed to stay healthy for those 2 years).

I'm also sure that Kennedy, along with most wrestlers, would tell you how tough their job is, and how it compares to other sports. Maybe there's a reason why those other sports have off-seasons? Could you imagine what kind of money the NFL would make if they expanded the season to 20 or 24 games? They can't because the athletes wouldn't be able to stand up to that kind of punishment, and the same goes for the other sports (yes, even baseball and basketball).

[sarcasm]And, sure, there isn't a problem[/sarcasm], and things are better than they were 5, 10, 15 years ago. How does Kennedy know about 5, 10, 15 years ago, as he wasn't in WWE then (just hypocritical as he questions ex-wrestlers commenting on today's WWE)? And if there isn't a problem, how have 3 former/current world champion's of the last few years names come up in drug investigations (Edge, Benoit, Mysterio), and two recent world champions are dead (Guerrero and Benoit)?

Dave Meltzer said it best on http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=20145

--After writing the past week about how sad it is to see people more concerned with protecting the business, which keeps a deadly status quo, than offering suggestions on how things can improve, we get www.ken-kennedy.com This business divisiveness of people "choosing sides" as opposed to working for improvements is outright pathetic. Not surprising, but sad. When you read this, you'll realize that unless it comes from the outside, nothing will ever change. Every wrestler on top at 30 has this attitude, and when they are on the scrap heap at 45, they have a very different view (unless they have a child wanting a job, in which case they toe the line, as witnessing the complete 180 of Ted DiBiase three years ago and Ted DiBiase today). But I thought the column was very important to read. Some of you will like it if you subscribe to the viewpoint that it's us against them and above all, we have to save our industry no matter what the cost. Some will have a very different idea reading it.

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#103577 - 07/16/07 06:44 PM Re: ****The OFFICIAL Comicon Totally Off-Topic Wrestling Thread****
G Allan Holcomb Offline
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Did anyone watch the TNA PPV? A local girl, Nikki Roxx, made her televison debut and I was wondering about opnions.

I read she looked like a deer in headlights and hope that's not true. The irony to her debut is that when TNA toured New England last month they didn't book her.

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#103578 - 07/17/07 11:02 AM Re: ****The OFFICIAL Comicon Totally Off-Topic Wrestling Thread****
Rusty Cage Offline
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Didn't see the PPV, but that's too bad if Nikki struggled. I've seen her on several Shimmer DVD's, and I enjoy her work. Hopefully she gets another chance.

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#103579 - 08/19/07 06:29 PM Re: ****The OFFICIAL Comicon Totally Off-Topic Wrestling Thread****
G Allan Holcomb Offline
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I've kinda given up on the televised wrestling, It's been over a month since I could sit through a 15 minute block of it. I actually walked out of the room 4 or 5 times during one show. I had nothing to read so I kept looking at the TV.

In better news- I'm going to two shows this weekend again. Ring of Honor is in my hometown Friday and I'll be there and I'll be crashing some tailgaters. 2 cage matches Friday. Saturday ROH is back in Manhattan and I'll be there and I'll be there a little early so I can swing into Jim Hanley's. Both shows are going to be positive events for me.

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#103580 - 08/19/07 09:46 PM Re: ****The OFFICIAL Comicon Totally Off-Topic Wrestling Thread****
Frank Carrera Offline
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Man, I'm about 3 weeks behind on my DVR, myself.

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