Page 198 of 200 < 1 2 ... 196 197 198 199 200 >
Topic Options
#18350 - 03/05/08 10:49 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
Ceci n'est pas une chaussette Offline
Member

Registered: 12/19/05
Posts: 2840
Okay, that's pretty funny.
_________________________
"When one says 'Africa,' it refers to Africa in the Euro-colonized sense, not the damn bush country or whatever."
- Ed Gauthier, DCP

Top
#18351 - 03/05/08 10:51 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
stanleylieber Offline
Member

Registered: 02/13/07
Posts: 963
smile

Top
#18352 - 03/05/08 11:32 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
Erik Larsen Offline
Member

Registered: 03/25/02
Posts: 1795
Loc: Oakland, CA
Quote:
Originally posted by stanleylieber:
His goal is to get Vinnie Colletta the respect he deserves.
Well, he's got that. I thought that WAS the problem.
_________________________
-Erik Larsen

Savage Dragon perpetrator
www.imagecomics.com
www.savagedragon.com

Top
#18353 - 03/06/08 07:39 AM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
Sparvid Offline
Member

Registered: 10/09/01
Posts: 465
Loc: Sweden
Why not use Byrne's post about Kirby "doing what today would be called breakdowns" to tie together the discussions about him and Colletta? :p

Top
#18354 - 03/06/08 09:04 AM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
Lawson Offline
Member

Registered: 11/11/02
Posts: 11978
Loc: Lexington, Ky.
Quote:
Originally posted by Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.:
Not another thread about Paul!

oops. Forgot to switch screen names
Ha!

Paul gets in a funny.

The more I dislike that sock-puppet guy, the fonder I feel of Paul. It's like there's only so much loathing in my heart to go around.


Quote:
Originally posted by Erik Larsen:
Quote:
Originally posted by stanleylieber:
His goal is to get Vinnie Colletta the respect he deserves.
Well, he's got that. I thought that WAS the problem.
Ha!

And Erik gets in a funny.

Top
#18355 - 03/06/08 09:25 AM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
Paul W. Sondersted, Jr. Offline
Member

Registered: 07/22/01
Posts: 4593
Loc: Sparks, Nevada, United States
You loathe me! You REALLY loathe me!

I'd like to thank the Academy...

Top
#18356 - 03/06/08 12:01 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
Erik Larsen Offline
Member

Registered: 03/25/02
Posts: 1795
Loc: Oakland, CA
Quote:
Originally posted by geedis:
I can't move past the fact that Colletta contracted out. My opinions on his work are suspect. As I said, I may have judged him according to work that he didn't produce. I could still say he was responsible for turning it over to others then turning it in as his own work, but that still doesn't have a lot to do with his own skills.

I is confused.
A LOT of people in the field contracted out. A lot of artists have had assistants and a lot of inkers have had assistants. This is nothing unusual.
_________________________
-Erik Larsen

Savage Dragon perpetrator
www.imagecomics.com
www.savagedragon.com

Top
#18357 - 03/06/08 12:41 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
geedis Offline
Member

Registered: 11/28/00
Posts: 13263
Loc: AZ
Quote:
Originally posted by Erik Larsen:
A LOT of people in the field contracted out. A lot of artists have had assistants and a lot of inkers have had assistants. This is nothing unusual.
In that case, the only thing left to judge him by is the quality of the work. I can't really blame Colletta for that god-awful inking on Thor if he wasn't the guy who did the god-awful inking.

That's why I'm confused. For the sake of fairness, if I want to reevaluate Colletta's work I have to do some pretty in-depth research just to find out which pieces he actually did the inks on.

Maybe there's a collector who knows more about this stuff and can clear it up.
_________________________
Comfort the disturbed, disturb the comfortable

Top
#18358 - 03/07/08 12:05 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
Erik Larsen Offline
Member

Registered: 03/25/02
Posts: 1795
Loc: Oakland, CA
Quote:
Originally posted by geedis:
[QUOTE]In that case, the only thing left to judge him by is the quality of the work. I can't really blame Colletta for that god-awful inking on Thor if he wasn't the guy who did the god-awful inking.

That's why I'm confused. For the sake of fairness, if I want to reevaluate Colletta's work I have to do some pretty in-depth research just to find out which pieces he actually did the inks on.

Maybe there's a collector who knows more about this stuff and can clear it up.
Vinnie had help inking backgrounds in his later years. At the time he was inking Thor--Vinnie was doing his own backgrounds (or erasing them). In the issue of Thor that I drew (385) Vinnie definitely had a background guy. Vinnie inked all of page one--but beyond that he had an assistant doing backgrounds. Vinnie would have simplified it had he inked it himself.

So--in regard to Kirby's Thor-- love it or hate it--Vinnie is doing it all himself.
_________________________
-Erik Larsen

Savage Dragon perpetrator
www.imagecomics.com
www.savagedragon.com

Top
#18359 - 03/07/08 12:41 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
Carlton Donaghe Offline
Member

Registered: 11/23/98
Posts: 1619
Loc: the American Desert
You know, I always really liked Colletta's inking on THOR.

Also, I think it's hilarious that Mr. Larsen actually references Mr. Sondersted in his signature here for the comicon b-boards. Sir, it makes you look like just one of the guys. How cool is that?
_________________________
Without Wax,
Carlton Donaghe
somewhere along the Rio Grande

Top
Page 198 of 200 < 1 2 ... 196 197 198 199 200 >


Moderator:  Rick Veitch, Steve Conley