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#16390 - 03/06/06 12:59 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
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I'd like to see him go back to NEXT MEN, finish that up. But I imagine that he has recycled / adapted those stories as something else.

I didn't mean that as sarcastic as some of you will take it. Byrne has often stated, in the forward to 2112 for instance, that some projects started out as something else entirely.

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#16391 - 03/06/06 01:29 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
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Originally posted by cincinnatus:
I think the bridges might be a little too scorched there.
That's the thing with John Byrne - he is becoming an island whose connection to the mainland is built upon burning, smoking bridges as far as the eye can see.
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#16392 - 03/06/06 11:26 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
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I think Byrne's writing isn't that great.

At times, he's so inspired, it has made up for his writing deficiencies.

I think he's phoned it in with his art sometimes, too, no matter what he may claim.

I also think his reputation toward fans and the comics community is so bad, it's hard not believe there's some truth in it.

However, his latest work in Action is top notch, really. As good as he ever was, practically -- in some ways better, in others not, but there's no arguing it's seriously high-quality work.

Should he stop doing comics? Hell, no, not when he can still draw like that.
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#16393 - 03/07/06 03:18 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
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No one can stay on top forever. Think of Steve Ditko or Jack Kirby in his last days. Think of Carlos Burgos and Bill Everett, two of the biggest artists of the golden age inking and colouring for Marvel.

Assuming Byrne saved his money or invested wisely while it was coming in, he is free to do as he wishes in whatever field he chooses. If he is broke then the trick is "know thyself".
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#16394 - 03/07/06 06:59 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
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Originally posted by cincinnatus:
I for one would like to see Byrne go back to something creator-owned--maybe Danger Unlimited. Image would seem to make sense, but I think the bridges might be a little too scorched there.
They're only burned in his own mind. I'd welcome him--but I can't see him making that move regardless.
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#16395 - 03/07/06 10:46 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
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Originally posted by metron:
Why should he retire? He can still earn boucoup bucks.
Not if he keeps pulling in the sales he's been getting in recent years.

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#16396 - 03/07/06 11:15 PM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
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Originally posted by metron:
Why should he retire? He can still earn boucoup bucks.
Not if he keeps pulling in the sales he's been getting in recent years.
Sure he can.

I'm pretty sure he's still getting one of the highest page rates out there at this point and he is paid by the page, after all.

Only a handful of books earn rotalties these days and since John can crank out the pages--it only stands to reason that he's still able to earn a decent living.

He has no reason to retire.
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#16397 - 03/08/06 02:33 AM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
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Originally posted by Brian Bell:


...However, his latest work in Action is top notch, really. As good as he ever was, practically -- in some ways better, in others not, but there's no arguing it's seriously high-quality work.

Should he stop doing comics? Hell, no, not when he can still draw like that.
He can't.
Because his inker on Action does Byrne better than Byrne.
Don't expect them to work together again since Nelson, the inker, erased the bad Byrne to draw the good Byrne.
Check the penciled art on Byrne's own website.
And that, understandably, pissed Byrne off.
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#16398 - 03/08/06 04:46 AM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
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It's weird, but I'm reading 232-240 FF for the first time, and compared to what I saw recently on Action Comics from him, the 80ies Byrne is way better, visually.

But don't ask me why that is so.

it's probably a mixture of modern coloring, an alien inker (did he do those inks himself back then?) and Byrne's abilities weakening over time.

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#16399 - 03/08/06 08:34 AM Re: John Byrne's Career is Over
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Originally posted by Erik Larsen:
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Originally posted by cincinnatus:
I for one would like to see Byrne go back to something creator-owned--maybe Danger Unlimited. Image would seem to make sense, but I think the bridges might be a little too scorched there.
They're only burned in his own mind. I'd welcome him--but I can't see him making that move regardless.
That's good to hear, Erik. I would think that Byrne has enough of a loyal following--and fans like me who remember some of his creator-owned work fondly--that he could make a profit on a Danger Unlimited or JBNM book at Image (though obviously I'm not privy to the Image cost structure). I also don't see him making that decision, but it would be nice to see.


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