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#171066 - 05/05/06 09:58 AM Re: more fandom stuff
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Originally posted by madget:
I thought art was about escaping life?

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You thought wrong.
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#171067 - 05/05/06 10:02 AM Re: more fandom stuff
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#171068 - 05/05/06 10:30 AM Re: more fandom stuff
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#171069 - 05/05/06 11:34 AM Re: more fandom stuff
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feeling sad is still feeling
I'll bet seeing snuff porn would make me feel sad. Is it art?

And of the escapist or realist variety?

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#171070 - 05/05/06 11:42 AM Re: more fandom stuff
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feeling sad is still feeling
I'll bet seeing snuff porn would make me feel sad. Is it art?
I don't believe anyone said, "If it stirs feelings it is art," they said, "art stirs feelings." There is a difference.

But then, you knew that when you asked the question.
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#171071 - 05/05/06 12:26 PM Re: more fandom stuff
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Originally posted by Shoegaze99:
There is a difference.
What is it?

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#171072 - 05/05/06 12:38 PM Re: more fandom stuff
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Shoe, do you honestly imagine that at some point the people you're arguing with here are going to say, "Hey, you know what, you're right!"

I'm not taking sides, because (1) I like all of you just fine and (2) I no longer understand what any of you are arguing about. Something about art and happiness or art and pain. But nobody seems to be budging an inch in their positions.

Now, if you're just killing time and shooting the you-know-what, then forget I said anything.

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#171073 - 05/05/06 12:50 PM Re: more fandom stuff
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Originally posted by Lawson:
Shoe, do you honestly imagine that at some point the people you're arguing with here are going to say, "Hey, you know what, you're right!"
Not even remotely.

And I suppose I should have foreseen that this would take a turn into the tired old "What is art?" discussion ... as if that discussion isn't the same every time, everywhere you go.

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#171074 - 05/05/06 01:33 PM Re: more fandom stuff
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#171075 - 05/05/06 01:56 PM Re: more fandom stuff
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Now, if you're just killing time and shooting the you-know-what, then forget I said anything.
You got it. I dunno what Shoegaze is huffing about. He said there's a difference. I'm curious what it is. Straightforward enough I thought. The "happy" thing was facetious of course, but I'm not trying to be difficult. I thought X was actually taking it in an interesting direction with his comments re: "escapism."

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