Well they can email them directly to me at jzugale@earthlink.net -- if they send them to you, John, you just forward them on over. You'll probably want to include that info on your page. [img]http://209.198.111.165/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

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Jeff Zugale
Pagan City Comics
www.pagancity.com

Since some folks may not be able to email larger attachments due to restrictions put in place by their ISP, I have posted the following to the www.ohboycomics.com site.

To submit your page when it's completed, email it to jzugale@earthlink.net or to johnlgreen@juno.com . If your ISP's email service won't let you send an attachment with a file size the size of your page, you can post the page on your own website and notify Jeff with the URL. If you don't have a website to post to, contact John and he'll work out a way for you to FTP it to him.

Sean - email me a new bio at anytime. I like the idea of the self portraits as well!

Well, frankly, a 786x410 image in RGB color is only 945 K uncompressed, and most ISPs place a limit of 1MB on attached files. In any event, the files that come to me should be in GIF or most preferably JPEG format, and will likely not exceed 100 K after they are saved in this format. Anyone who has questions about how to compress these files nicely drop me an email.

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Jeff Zugale
Pagan City Comics
www.pagancity.com

Some of the contributors may not have the software/know-how to get the file size down. Just trying to cover any contingency. Thanks for offering to help out in that area.

Oh, and stop calling me frankly! [img]http://209.198.111.165/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

Hey - any of you fellow jamsters been reading Scott McCloud's " I Can't Stop Thinking " column? The latest one is a Top 10 Tips for first time online comic creators. Very good info, but I have a question about No. 9 in which he suggests not using standard "next page" type navigation when setting up a comic that has every page on it's own HTML document. He recommends dropping the "next" links and making the image itself the link to the next page.

My question is: do you think that would be confusing to visitors? It's something that I would never do in the web design work I do for a living. But I mostly do business sites where everything should be as easy as possible for visitors. "Mystery Meat Navigation" as Vince Flanders calls it is a no-no. Most business sites adopt the hold-their-hand-and-walk-them-through-the-site setup.

I can see the argument that visitors that go to online comics are more savy web users ( just look how savy, intelligent, and good-looking all the folks on this thread are! )but isn't the goal to attract as many people as possible to your work - newbies included? I suppose an ALT tag of "click for next page" in each image would help in McCloud's suggestion. Maybe I'm just to accustomed to "dumbing down" sites but I think some visitors might be turned off by your site if you don't provide literal "next page" type navigation. What do y'all think?

Well, Mr. Frankly... [img]http://209.198.111.165/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

Um, well I did try to make the nav controls relatively unobtrusive; The buttons in the nav bar above will be as small and clean as possible, while those in the actual art area will be ghosted overlays on the art, so as not to interfere too much. I think it's probably a good idea to keep it straightforward; while I'm a fan of unorthodox methods of navigation, doing something this public we should probably make it reasonably obvious how to navigate.

Most people out there surfing don't want to have to spend time figuring out an interface; that's what good interface design is all about.

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Jeff Zugale
Pagan City Comics
www.pagancity.com

Jeff - I think the nav controls you setup are fine. I wasn't commenting on the Jam Site, just McCloud's suggestion in general - which in my experience is a bad one. Just wondering if anyone else has a different take on site navigation as I'm inherently biased from designing in the corporate world all the time.

Best,

Mr. Frankly . . . no wait! dammit now you got me doing it!

Hello fellow jammers....
Tell me I'm stoopid, but a thread go missing? And within that thread was there some extremely important info as to where the pages from the comics jam can be viewed? Sorry if the answers are somewhere on this panel...but I didn't know if it was up to my turn yet... [img]http://209.198.111.165/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

Wayne Chin
Channel Effects Comics http://www.cfxcomics.com

Hey all, I've returned to the con and other than the move I like what I see. [ I know how important that is to all of you [img]http://209.198.111.165/ubb/smile.gif[/img] ]I am seriously thinking about joining up if there's room and once I see how much time I actually have when I go back to work.
On the "next page links" subject, I think that they may eventually fade away but right now there are still too many new users out there. If you look back at some older comics if they put a half page ad in the book they put a caption saying "Story continued on next page" and we don't have those any more. Sure it's kind of a stretch but it's the closest analogy I can come up with.