#236746 - 02/07/08 04:58 PM
Re: Vince Colletta
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That conversation on Stuart Immonen's website is very interesting. Also interesting is Mark Evanier's commentary on it here . I love Immonen's work, so his respect for Colletta's work carries a lot of weight with me. However, Mark Evanier is the most credible source on almost any topic, and especially in regards to Kirby his version of events is the one to believe, even if you disagree with his aesthetic judgements. Mark Evanier, from the link above: Lastly, based on my mail and a few comments on websites, I guess I didn't make it clear: Kirby, as editor of his DC books, fired Colletta as the inker because (a) Colletta was a security leak, showing the work around the Marvel offices, (b) Colletta was leaving things out and taking too many shortcuts for Jack and (c) Colletta basically told Jack that for what he was being paid, he would not put more effort into the work. And I guess there was also (d) — Jack wanted an inker who would take direction from him instead of those in the New York office. Mike Royer, who replaced Vinnie, was everything Jack wanted.
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#236747 - 02/07/08 04:59 PM
Re: Vince Colletta
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Originally posted by Budman:
Ok. Let's say the Marvel Artist is a legit, 2 things stand out--sounds like he's been there a while and still works there but needs anonymity to be able to speak freely and not lose his job. My question is this:
What's going to happen when Rich Johnston finds out his true identity? Will Rich publish it or keep it to himself, Ben Urich style? Well, technically he's a reporter so 9 times out of 10 he will only print half of what was said in order to create a sensational headline.
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#236748 - 02/07/08 06:13 PM
Re: Vince Colletta
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Originally posted by Marvel Artist:
You know what I'm saying shjonescrk. If you defend yourself, or other people in this world, you don't last long. Guys like me who don't "get involved" are the ones who retire with pensions. So--you fear coming out as being a fan of an artist whose work you admire because you're afraid there would be repercussions? That's fucked up on more levels than I can articulate.
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#236749 - 02/07/08 06:14 PM
Re: Vince Colletta
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As long as Marvel Artist doesn't say anything incriminating, although the "I need my job" line sounds juvenile or naive. Anyway, this mystery could make the Hobgoblin storyline look like a lame scooby and scrappy doo short.
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#236750 - 02/07/08 06:37 PM
Re: Vince Colletta
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We were talking about art here, right? I think that this thread is over.
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#236751 - 02/07/08 07:03 PM
Re: Vince Colletta
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Originally posted by Marvel Artist:
I think that this thread is over. You hear that, people? The thread is over! Nothing to see here! Move along!
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#236752 - 02/07/08 08:28 PM
Re: Vince Colletta
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Originally posted by Lawson: Originally posted by Marvel Artist:
I think that this thread is over.
The thread is over! Nothing to see here! Move along! Give him points for trying, tho. (On the other hand, instead of "Marvel Artist" he should try "Wizard Drone" or somesuch. If he's going to pull stunts like that, I mean. Maybe "Marvel Assistant Editor"? "Dandidio"?)
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#236753 - 02/08/08 10:42 AM
Re: Vince Colletta
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Close, Tuck...you almost hit the nail on the head.
Larsen: So--you fear coming out as being a fan of an artist whose work you admire because you're afraid there would be repercussions? That's fucked up on more levels than I can articulate.
An inker from the midwest, after obtaining an apartment across the river in NJ (not NYC but still not cheap) was sent packing for participating in comic book talk lists (under his own name).
Anyway, I already said that I was a doofus, I don't need you guys to tell me.
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#236754 - 02/08/08 11:03 AM
Re: Vince Colletta
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It has been an interesting discussion, Marvel Artist, and you are under no obligation to reveal your name. Most of us don't either.
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#236755 - 02/08/08 11:13 AM
Re: Vince Colletta
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Originally posted by Marvel Artist:
An inker from the midwest, after obtaining an apartment across the river in NJ (not NYC but still not cheap) was sent packing for participating in comic book talk lists (under his own name). Who? The reason I ask is--because I think it would be beneficial to all of us to know what went on and why. That seems really odd to me. But--whatever--keep your own secrets. There are a lot of people here that use pseudonyms. And a few who don't--like confirmed Colletta enthusiast Paul Smith who has posted on boards for years and always seems to keep pretty active in the comic book community.
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