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#319363 - 12/11/03 12:37 PM Re: ABNETT AND LANNING END LEGION RUN & ABC'S MAJESTIC RETURNS in the PAGES OF SUPERMAN
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...I can't believe CAL actually deferred to me on a topic. Guess Californians better put on their water wings, because the Left Coast is bound to tumble into the sea here in the next few minutes :-P (*)

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Originally posted by comicsareliterature:
Hey, OM, if you read this, how about posting your own list. I figure you might be the only guy on here who has read Legion longer than I have.


...I actually agree with you on Steve L, although a Steve Dillon Legion would be just as acceptable. Dillon has this way about facial expressions on people who have been totally fucked over without any real warning that always has me laughing to tears. The concept of Validus having one of those "...Fuck me." looks after having gotten that sucker punch from M'Onel would be a work of art, and if anyone was going to give us a full view of Ferro's unmasked face, it would have to be Dillon.

"Uh, Ferro, you said you had an ancestor who was a rock singer in the 20th Century?"

"Uh, yeah, Brainy. He was my Gestapo uncle Hugo Root's kid. I believe he was called 'Arseface' or something like that."

"Ah. Much is explained..."

...Hmm, who else, tho. Scot Kollins would be another one, as I'd love to see his styling on 31st Century Metropolis, as well as a bit more spotlight on XS that would result :-). Kieron Dwyer's another one, although I understand he's somewhat down on group books these days. And Pat Broderic would be a perfect "old school" artist to bring back on the book as well.

...Of course, the real question we should all be asking is, if Wade's returning to the book, how soon will it be before he reboots the whole mess and he renews his promise to break my nose for bitching about it? :-) :-) :-)

(*) Left Coasters, we expect you to provide damage reports out there if this happens!

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Originally posted by DaveGarcia:
Pacheco will be on there somewhere smile
...I officially will offer DC my left gonad if they put Carlos on the book. Then again, I'm crazy enough to make the same offer if they let Ted McKeever do just a couple of issues.

Kyle Baker on the Legion, anyone? :-P

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Originally posted by Sean Taylor:
Too bad. I really enjoyed their run. Sure, I know several, more old-school, L* fans who didn't like the darkening elements DnA introduced, but c'mon, they breathed life back into the books, and that's a good, right?
...Most, if not all Legion fans had no real issues with D&A's run (**). The REAL issue was with Coipel's early and mid-run art, which can still be described as a lame-assed Manga knockoff where all the characters look as if they haven't bathed in the week since they were drug thru a cow pasture full of cactus, all due to the fact that they were drawn with a dull toothbrush instead of a Koh-I-Noor and using lemons for head models.

...But, to be honest, I'd tolerate Coipel being put back on the book if D&A were to stay. As I've said in the past, the workaround that I developed was to take off my glasses, which blurred the "art" enough to inhibit the nausea reflex and allow me to still enjoy the story from a writing aspect.

(**) Save, perhaps, for the lack of Andromeda in the book, or yet another creative team's refusal to bring back Nemesis Kid :-P

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Originally posted by mustapha wormwood:
It sucks that they're leaving, but someone's got to make room for Grant Morrison, right?


...On the other hand, with our luck it'll be Warren Ellis. Which means after two issues, we'll be waiting for the third issue almost two years later with nothing but lame-assed excuses in the meantime :-P :-P :-P

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Originally posted by Chris Irvine:
I can`t believe Brevoort passed over giving these guys Avengers instead of our friend Chuck.


...I strongly suspect that particular assignment might not have been Tom's decision to make this go-around. Considering how Austen's a certified hack, and he's really buddy-buddy with the Q, odds are is that the Q called Tom and said "give him the job."
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#319364 - 12/11/03 02:34 PM Re: ABNETT AND LANNING END LEGION RUN & ABC'S MAJESTIC RETURNS in the PAGES OF SUPERMAN
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Mark Waid on Legion and Fantastic Four? Might that be too much sci-fi for one guy to take?
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#319365 - 12/11/03 07:12 PM Re: ABNETT AND LANNING END LEGION RUN & ABC'S MAJESTIC RETURNS in the PAGES OF SUPERMAN
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I think Dan and Andy have done a fantastic job on this book, but I can't say as I'm exactly upset over rumors of Mark Waid taking over the writing of any comic. Mid-Ohio Con only sealed it - I fear I'm more "Waidgirl" than ever...

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#319366 - 12/11/03 07:47 PM Re: ABNETT AND LANNING END LEGION RUN & ABC'S MAJESTIC RETURNS in the PAGES OF SUPERMAN
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Originally posted by Elayne Riggs:
I think Dan and Andy have done a fantastic job on this book, but I can't say as I'm exactly upset over rumors of Mark Waid taking over the writing of any comic. Mid-Ohio Con only sealed it - I fear I'm more "Waidgirl" than ever...


...E, you didn't pull a Beatle Fangirl stunt on him, did you? :-) :-) :-) :-)

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#319367 - 12/11/03 08:43 PM Re: ABNETT AND LANNING END LEGION RUN & ABC'S MAJESTIC RETURNS in the PAGES OF SUPERMAN
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Originally posted by comicsareliterature:


I would like to simply thank DnA for telling some great tales over the last few years. I have enjoyed them immensely, and DnA are also two very polite, friendly con creators, to boot!


Me too! laugh

Kinda hard to believe that we've got the rest of Foundations + three more issues from DnA and that's it! But I'm actually at peace with it. DnA have maintained a good quality on the series throughout their run, but I think they peaked around #10. Of course, that may just be because I liked the stories where there wasn't a stable status quo for the team. Between Lost and Terror Incognita, so much was at stake.

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#319368 - 12/12/03 02:09 AM Re: ABNETT AND LANNING END LEGION RUN & ABC'S MAJESTIC RETURNS in the PAGES OF SUPERMAN
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I'm quite bummed to hear this news. frown

I thought DnA's run on this book was as good as I've read on the title in a long, long, looong time. And I'm especially annoyed that it's ending because DC's nudging them out, especially after sales are reportedly on the rise (yeah, I know it's Superboy and all, but still). This sort of boneheaded move is almost on a par with them cancelling Supergirl after issues started selling out and orders for the book had already crawled out of the basement.
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#319369 - 12/12/03 04:27 AM Re: ABNETT AND LANNING END LEGION RUN & ABC'S MAJESTIC RETURNS in the PAGES OF SUPERMAN
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Originally posted by Engine Joe:

So not only are DnA very good comics writers, but they also understand the golden rule of business: "the customer is always right"!


fIRST OF ALL i had to respond to this.......
This is a made up golden rule of business ....
If anyone believes it there is this story about the easter bunny and compassionate conservative republicans.....

The customer is most often never right......
Whoever made this up was never one to have worked in business --- but most likely a disgruntled costumer...

And obviously you have never worked in business(retail or service) to have ever said this....

"The customer is led to believe they are always right -when in most cases they are wrong or just being picky...."

The golden rule is never let them know that.


Sorry to go off point but I always hate hearing that statement since it is never true.
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#319370 - 12/12/03 05:21 AM Re: ABNETT AND LANNING END LEGION RUN & ABC'S MAJESTIC RETURNS in the PAGES OF SUPERMAN
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And now to comment on the title itself,

Damn - I am of two minds on this....

1- that this is a damn shame and that Abnett and Lanning have really done wonders for the title.

Legion Of The Damned --wonderful stuff took the Reboot legion and shook em up really good. Very few titles are taken and by the second issue of the creators run the book was theirs.

Legion Lost.- This was big one for this team..
a roller coaster of a ride that broke all the ruules. GreAT work.

Legion Worlds....this has some nay ideas running though it...when the regular title returned i wish they has continued this as a quarterly showcasing various areas of the universe around the Legion.-

The regular series was wonderful.....so many great moments.....Dream Crime. Copiels art... issue 25 and we have yet to see the finale....

now all this was great......

and then i am of the second mind

2-Here is why i am glad they are leaving.....

let's call it the Waid/Jurgens/Kelly quotient....
Think of some titles where the creative team was so good when they started but by the time they left you didn't care....
Happened 2 times for waid Flash and Captain America... jurgens was fine for a while on superman as was Kelly but people turn on them after that stories got "regular" and even is the latter stories were fine..they didn't live up to the start of the run.

Rather than see this team go down that path a new team sounds great.
We can remember that the Abnett/lanning era ---was one of top notch writing and development and they never let us down.


Thanks guys, looking forward to your next book.
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#319371 - 12/12/03 05:57 AM Re: ABNETT AND LANNING END LEGION RUN & ABC'S MAJESTIC RETURNS in the PAGES OF SUPERMAN
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Quote:
Originally posted by deaconmc:

Thank you so much for that! & what a relatable trip! Exactly what I was asking for! This is gonna be cool! I think my battle plan is this; I read the first 3 issues in the first Legion archive 2-nite. I'm going to near simultaneously begin issue 25 of the current run in order to contrast the alpha & omega. Made more resonant because the current run re-examines the Leagues' roots (Superboy). When I finish the First Archive I'll vist the web site you refered to & then start at the Suberboy &..Grell era and make my way from there while reading the monthly as it ships. I'll even try to find some redeeming value in the Zerohour reeboot when I get there.
Thanx for the post, dude!
oh man... I was in the same place you are two years ago. TWO YEARS AGO! no Legion experience, I dug in and worked forward. I've bought every DnA Legion, and they're sitting in a pile, unread, because I'm still trying to find some LegionLost issues first.

I started with Legion (second series) #259, when they took over the numbering of the Superboy title and worked my way up. The Levitz/Giffen stuff just has much more of an impact if you can get a good chunk of history under your belt.

Problem is, this is a very small chunk, and unless you want to spend $50 per Legion Archive, you're going to miss many classic stories. I read the famous Legion FAQ to catch up on the years that I deemed, for my budget, uncollectabe.. not the same, but at least I knew the big events characters would refer to from time to time.

Finally, this website has helped me out a lot over the collecting years:
http://home.nycap.rr.com/lshindex/Fieldguide.html

If youre willing to get emotionally involved, have something close by to punch and scream into when you hit Zero Hour...

Which brings up a great poll. Picking a place to start is easy, where's a good place to stop?
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#319372 - 12/12/03 06:30 AM Re: ABNETT AND LANNING END LEGION RUN & ABC'S MAJESTIC RETURNS in the PAGES OF SUPERMAN
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chris Irvine:
I can`t believe Brevoort passed over giving these guys Avengers instead of our friend Chuck. DnA can handle a big cast of characters easy, and make super-stories sing like not others. And so Avengers is the quintessential super-hero book and Andy is even inking it? Plus the chance the reunite them with their classic run teamates, Olivier Coipel. It`s a no brainer. What was Tom thinking that day...?


Maybe he remembered the Force Works fiasco... :-(

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