#397642 - 11/28/03 08:45 PM
Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
|
Member
Registered: 07/03/01
Posts: 751
Loc: California, U.S.A.
|
Originally posted by Samuel Catalino:
Nah, we all await for the next Dean mistake.
I still love these gems:
"...there is a war going on in the Middle East, and members of Hamas are soldiers in that war, and, therefore, it seems to me that they are going to be casualties if they are going to make war" September 2003 Howard Dean
Yep, those Hamas are sure soldiers. I am sure the many civilians who have been murdered in Israel look at them as soldiers too, eh? I don't recall the context of this quotation, but if you're trying to use it to demonstrate that Dean is anti-semitic, it doesn't do that. He's saying that if the members of Hamas make war, they will be casualties. Sounds like he's telling them that they better think twice before resorting to more violence. If you believe that you can declare a war on Terrorists, then, yeah, you're saying that Terrorists are soldiers in that war. Merely being a soldier does not grant legitimacy -- it's what the soldier is fighting for that's important. Is there any real evidence of anti-semitism on Dean's part? The other quote you cite is totally taken out of context. Yeah, he wants those votes, and so do the Republicans. He specifically wants those votes, because he wants them to realize that there are things more important than race they need to consider. If you don't like a candidate because you disagree with his views, that's one thing, but don't make things up to dislike, or let others make things up that you accept without question. --Scott Rowland
_________________________
"Continuity" means respecting the writers and artists who came before you.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#397643 - 11/28/03 08:49 PM
Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
|
Member
Registered: 07/03/01
Posts: 751
Loc: California, U.S.A.
|
I haven't followed Drudge before this,so I'm not hip to whatever biases he may or may not have, but I do think this story makes the people commenting on the President's pronunciation look much worse than it makes the President look. It also makes Drudge look petty -- or at least lacking for material. --Scott
_________________________
"Continuity" means respecting the writers and artists who came before you.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#397644 - 11/28/03 11:57 PM
Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
|
Member
Registered: 04/04/99
Posts: 4447
|
Originally posted by "Korvac": >>>No, the story is still where it was: http://www.drudgereport.com/dean9.htm So feed us some more BS, "korvac"?<<< The link has been removed from the front page. Normally Drudge would milk something like this for weeks. I agree with Cisco- I hope the Right screams about this ad nauseaum. The American people can watch them attacking a man mourning his brother over the behaviour of government officials he has no power over. Oh and as to the pissy little "" marks around my tag, I've given my name multiple times, my home page -link above- has it everywhere and I've never hid it. You're still the Troll King Samuel.
And if you like it that well under the bridge, you certainly have my permission to stay there, "Korvac"
_________________________
"If we lose a hundred troops a week, then Dean will be our next Prez." Jack V, avid Dean supporter with no concern for the troops.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#397645 - 11/29/03 12:14 AM
Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
|
Member
Registered: 04/04/99
Posts: 4447
|
Originally posted by Scott Rowland:
I don't recall the context of this quotation, but if you're trying to use it to demonstrate that Dean is anti-semitic, it doesn't do that. He's saying that if the members of Hamas make war, they will be casualties. Sounds like he's telling them that they better think twice before resorting to more violence. If you believe that you can declare a war on Terrorists, then, yeah, you're saying that Terrorists are soldiers in that war. Merely being a soldier does not grant legitimacy -- it's what the soldier is fighting for that's important.
Is there any real evidence of anti-semitism on Dean's part?
The other quote you cite is totally taken out of context. Yeah, he wants those votes, and so do the Republicans. He specifically wants those votes, because he wants them to realize that there are things more important than race they need to consider.
If you don't like a candidate because you disagree with his views, that's one thing, but don't make things up to dislike, or let others make things up that you accept without question.
--Scott Rowland
Dean was the one who made the comment about the Confederate flag, and that made him a bullseye. He wants the vote of people who support the Klan, so that pretty much sums up what kind of man he is.
_________________________
"If we lose a hundred troops a week, then Dean will be our next Prez." Jack V, avid Dean supporter with no concern for the troops.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#397646 - 11/29/03 07:20 AM
Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
|
Member
Registered: 11/11/99
Posts: 12596
Loc: Just south of NYC
|
Sorry Sam, Hamas may be "terrorists" but they consider themselves "soldiers", and so does everyone else eho has even glimmered the story a little.
Or perhaps "jihad" eludes you. Whatever. Keep beating that drum, it might just make a rhythm soon enough.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#397647 - 11/29/03 07:35 AM
Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
|
Member
Registered: 03/11/03
Posts: 102
Loc: Fort Collins
|
Sam's right. Hamas are cowards, murderers and terrorists operating under the false rubric of "soldiers." Real soldiers obey international law regarding combat and civilians.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#397648 - 11/29/03 08:15 AM
Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
|
Member
Registered: 11/11/99
Posts: 12596
Loc: Just south of NYC
|
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#397649 - 11/29/03 08:50 AM
Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
|
Member
Registered: 03/11/03
Posts: 102
Loc: Fort Collins
|
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#397650 - 11/29/03 09:05 AM
Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
|
Member
Registered: 04/04/99
Posts: 4447
|
Originally posted by jack:
Sorry Sam, Hamas may be "terrorists" but they consider themselves "soldiers", and so does everyone else eho has even glimmered the story a little.
Or perhaps "jihad" eludes you. Whatever. Keep beating that drum, it might just make a rhythm soon enough.
Why are you trying to start something with me, especially after Rick gave us the warning not to stir it up again? I have said I would discuss things in a civil way, but when you come here and insult me in such a manner, well, you know the drill...
_________________________
"If we lose a hundred troops a week, then Dean will be our next Prez." Jack V, avid Dean supporter with no concern for the troops.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#397651 - 11/29/03 09:07 AM
Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
|
Member
Registered: 04/04/99
Posts: 4447
|
Originally posted by jack:
Oh, you mean like we do?
I reject the comparison.
_________________________
"If we lose a hundred troops a week, then Dean will be our next Prez." Jack V, avid Dean supporter with no concern for the troops.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
Previous Topic
Index