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#397612 - 11/26/03 01:19 PM Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
Cisco Bunny Offline
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Originally posted by Finar:
Wow Bunny I truly feel sorry for you.

Those last few lines say a lot about you, keep well and make sure you wear that
Tin-Foil hat to keep out those Rays the Conservatives are always broadcasting.

Putting aside your bias Bunny what do you really think about this is it acceptable in your little world for a political candidate to have preferential treatment? Why should Howard Deans brother get special treatment ? Would your brother get special treatment if he did what Howard Deans brother did ? Mine wouldn’t he didn’t serve.

I would expect his remains to be identified in the order they were received seems to me like the human thing to do. Why is Howard Deans pain greater than yours or mine ? It doesn’t make sense.


Well, for one thing, Dean's brother isn't getting preferential treatment. He's dead. What exactly are you arguing? I guess you think he should have been left in that mass grave in Laos, huh? Cool... hope you Republicans keep pushing that opinion.

How do you feel about Bush's preferential treatment in getting into Yale and Harvard, despite having a C average? What is that? Affirmative action for dumb rich kids? Was he there on a cheerleading scholarship? Somehow I doubt you think that is preferential treatment.

Grow up, Finar, and let the Dean family grieve and close the book on this.

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#397613 - 11/26/03 01:21 PM Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
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Cisco, if (and that's is a big if, I'll admit) this is true, you would have no problem with a non-military person, getting military honors? I don't think this has anything to do with Deans views. If it's true it's wrong plain and simple. I'd feel the same way no matter who's brother it was including my own.
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#397614 - 11/26/03 01:23 PM Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
Cisco Bunny Offline
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Originally posted by Samuel Catalino:


More distortions from the sockpuppet.

See http://www.bartcop.com/pickles.htm

Pay attention to the two sentences:

"At an intersection, she apparently failed to see her boyfriend, Mike Douglas, driving south. The vehicles collided and Douglas was thrown from his doorless Jeep, breaking his neck. He died instantly."

and...

"An abbreviated version of the report concluded neither Douglas or Bush could be blamed for the accident, the Post reported."

He was not crossing(the inference here was that he was walking) anywhere, he was driving a doorless jeep. Of course, some sockpuppets do not concern themselves with the facts.

Perhaps an investigation into this sockpuppets' veracity might be in order?


Wasn't her boyfriend, it was her ex-boyfriend. And I am glad to see that you do not contest that:

1) Laura Bush struck her ex-boyfriend with a car.

2) This accident resulted in his death

Do you think if Hillary had killed an ex-boyfriend in a traffic accident, you wouldn't be screaming about it, and demanding Congressional investigations? Ken Starr would have spent 3 years on it. I'm no fan of the Clintons, but what's good for the goose is good for the fucking gander.

You macho flag-sucking bomb-crazed war hawks Republicans sure can dish out, but you can't take it. You go running home TO MAMA!

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#397615 - 11/26/03 01:25 PM Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
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The article says that JPAC was pressured, but even it doesn't go so far as to say it is Dean who is responsible.

I've encountered situations where people decide to do something special for "celebrities" without the celebrity or their entourage asking for it. Since Drudge tries to blame Dean, but doesn't come out and say it, my guess is it is just someone in the JPAC hierarchy or military either trying to be nice or kissing up, depending on how you want to look at it.

The best way to show respect for people who serve in the military is to do it while they are alive, by the way.

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#397616 - 11/26/03 01:29 PM Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
Finar Offline
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Wow Bunny way to totally avoid the question talk about having issues with growing up.

I agree the Deans should be allowed to grieve but not at the expense of the other families who loved ones remains were pushed aside so Deans brother could be identified. WoW I can't believe you don't see that.

This sucks is Howard Dean using political pull so he can grieve on a national stage that's just wrong. I expected better from Howard.
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#397617 - 11/26/03 01:30 PM Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
Cisco Bunny Offline
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Originally posted by snoid:
Cisco, if (and that's is a big if, I'll admit) this is true, you would have no problem with a non-military person, getting military honors? I don't think this has anything to do with Deans views. If it's true it's wrong plain and simple. I'd feel the same way no matter who's brother it was including my own.


Dean's brother has been classified as a POW since he went missing in the 70's, long before Dean had even entered politics. Why he was considered POW, despite not being military, I do not know. Dean says his father and mother believed that Charlie was on the CIA payroll, although he himself does not believe that.

In the past 10 years, the Pentagon has gotten a lot better at locating and repatriating the remains of MIA's... it's actually become a pretty high priority, which I think is a good thing.

I think the question is, why was Charlie Dean immediately classified as POW in 1973, despite not being military? Maybe you Republicans would support an independent counsel to investigate the matter?

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#397618 - 11/26/03 01:38 PM Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
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Originally posted by Samuel Catalino:


Nope. "Bunny" got busted for obvious lies...and I even got it from bartcop.


But "Bunny" proved bartcop wrong, sir. wink

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#397619 - 11/26/03 01:38 PM Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
Finar Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scott Rowland:
The article says that JPAC was pressured, but even it doesn't go so far as to say it is Dean who is responsible.

I've encountered situations where people decide to do something special for "celebrities" without the celebrity or their entourage asking for it. Since Drudge tries to blame Dean, but doesn't come out and say it, my guess is it is just someone in the JPAC hierarchy or military either trying to be nice or kissing up, depending on how you want to look at it.

The best way to show respect for people who serve in the military is to do it while they are alive, by the way.

--Scott


Scott If that's true and if I was Howard Dean I'd want the head of the person who did that.

I think Dean is an honest guy and I'd accepted his apology on the Southern thing. I'm waiting to see how this plays out.

I remember something like this happening on a much much smaller scale in my state of Mass.

A state rep was given a free toll pass on the side and then when he refused to vote the way the democratic speaker of the house wanted him to (In favor or raising the tolls) it was noted in the papers in the papers that he had a free pass.

Talk about fallout everyone got mad at the state rep for getting preferential treatment not even the state rep tearing up the free pass on his front lawn saved his butt.

But then again that's politics as usual in Massachusetts where if you don’t vote the party line you end up politically dead.
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#397620 - 11/26/03 01:40 PM Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
Finar Offline
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Originally posted by Cisco Bunny:


Dean's brother has been classified as a POW since he went missing in the 70's, long before Dean had even entered politics. Why he was considered POW, despite not being military, I do not know. Dean says his father and mother believed that Charlie was on the CIA payroll, although he himself does not believe that.

In the past 10 years, the Pentagon has gotten a lot better at locating and repatriating the remains of MIA's... it's actually become a pretty high priority, which I think is a good thing.

I think the question is, why was Charlie Dean immediately classified as POW in 1973, despite not being military? Maybe you Republicans would support an independent counsel to investigate the matter?



As an Independant I'd be first in Line BUNNY why is this guy a POW ??? And why was he put ahead of anybody else ???
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#397621 - 11/26/03 01:55 PM Re: Dean Brother Flap Hummmmm
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http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-nybres193549804nov19,0,4431266.column

I Like Jimmy He's lived throught most of it all for me.
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