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#412458 - 09/02/04 10:27 AM Re: Are you Republican?
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an Austrian claiming to know something about the American dream?


Well if you what to compare I will take an Austrian who wanted become an American (and did) over an American who wants to be a Canadian; as all too many indoctrinated fellow Americans seem to be.
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#412459 - 09/02/04 10:31 AM Re: Are you Republican?
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What a bunch of Rush induced shit you guys spew.
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#412460 - 09/02/04 10:32 AM Re: Are you Republican?
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Sigh.

Every once and a while hate-filled conservative xenophobes latch on to the mistaken idea that only Americans are allowed to comment on American politics.

Here's the thing my logic challenged friend, we all concede that America is the most powerful country in the world - like it or not we are all living in Pax Americana - sans the Pax. I'm from a country right next door. America's politics affect my country directly and indirectly. Bush's policies directly affect me politically, economically and socially.

Bush's party has contributed money, experts and policy 'suggestions' to the Canadian Conservative Party - directly affecting my country. Bush's policies directly affect my country's safety and security.

So tell you what - when America stops trying to change other countries with bombs I'll stop trying to change America with my oh so dangerous and significant posts on a comic book website. Deal?
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#412461 - 09/02/04 10:39 AM Re: Are you Republican?
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Every once and a while hate-filled conservative xenophobes latch on to the mistaken idea that only Americans are allowed to comment on American politics


Who's hateful? You can comment on them but to truly understand them, you have to be an American. It's that simple. Like it or not, that's the truth.

Comparison - a white guy listens to rap music about repression, slavery and injustice. He can sing those tunes, like them and understand them but to him, they're just words. He can't "feel" them like a black person could. That's just the way it is.
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#412462 - 09/02/04 10:42 AM Re: Are you Republican?
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Originally posted by B. Michael White:
What a bunch of Rush induced shit you guys spew.


That should not always be your defensive mechanism. I do not listen to Rush. He's arrogant, boastful and just plain boring.

He doesn't speak for me so don't judge me based on his views please.
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#412463 - 09/02/04 10:46 AM Re: Are you Republican?
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Originally posted by Alias:
Neither party has the market cornered on honesty, integrity or moral values. Both parties are continually allowed to screw the public without fear of repurcussion and until real, meaningful consequences exist to punish those who subvert thier sworn duty as public servants then the public getting screwed will carry on fast and furious by both parties. It's classic misdirection to believe there is any significant differences to republicans or democrats.


Yes, you can find instances of crime and corruption from members of both parties. Power corrupts, that's just human nature. But if you think the NeoCons are no worse than the other side you truly are an idiot. Can't you scrutinize the Bush administration with the same eyes the Republicans used on Clinton? They spent billions over the course of 6 years and accussed him of everything from murder to corruption and found nothing more than a lie to cover up a personal indescretion, something that had nothing to do with anything they were supposed to investigate, (sorry I lumped the Starr investigation together with the whole "Vast Rightwing Conspiracy" there, but you get the point).

They even eat there own! Not only did Karl Rove and the gang engage in smear tactics like the "Swiftboat Vets," against Gore and others like Max Cleland, but they used them against John McCain. Who is so deperately clinging to the party, trying to be a loyal Republican, his wife is the only one who publically admits how hurtful the attacks on her and her husband were. They used push polls etc., to claim they had a black baby out of wedlock (they apopted) and said that she was a drug addict, when she had only gotten addicted to pain killers after back surgery not unlike Rush Limbaugh. They have even sent Bob Dole on the attack, despite file footage of Dole denouncing Bush and his crew for such tactics.

This current administration has lied about more and been involved in more corrupt practices and politics that any in recent history. With strong ties to all the following:

The Carlyle Group

The Saudi Royal Family
(The day after 9/11 Bush was on the porch at the White House smoking cigars with Prince Bandar, wh he affectionately calls Bandar Bush)

Haliburton

Enron
(Bush loves the nicknames for his close buddies, Corrupt executive Ken Lay's was Kenny Boy)

Taliban
(Fact: The WTC was bombed right AFTER Bush-Taliban oil pipeline talks soured.
The talks soured right AFTER Bush/Big Oil threatened Taliban to take their offer or receive a "carpet of bombs.)

Iraq
(Yes, the WMDs the republicans often point out in horror for Saddam using on his own people were from us for him to use on Iran)

Harken
(1. President George W. Bush did indeed have material non-public knowledge of adverse financial conditions at Harken Energy Co. prior to the sale of his Harken stock and therefore violated 15 U.S.C. § 78u-1 , insider trading of securities based upon material non-public information.
2. The Securities and Exchange Commission was indeed aware of Bush’s insider trading violation and chose to stand down.
3. While serving on the Board of Directors at Harken Energy Company, George W. Bush’s performance, motives and ethics were no different than those of the corporate executives and officers of Enron, Worldcom or any other national corporation being criticized by Bush for doing what he did.
4. The Aloha Petroleum sale was an act of fraud and Bush was in a position to know it and prevent it.
5. George W. Bush sought business dealings with people strongly connected to and involved with BCCI, the empire of fraud and crime.)

Hamid Karzai
(He worked for the American oil company Unocal and is wrapped up in the Bush family history, and is nothing more than a Bush puppet of an administration that claimed to not be about nation building).

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#412464 - 09/02/04 10:47 AM Re: Are you Republican?
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.....Yeah.


So what would Canadians not understand about life, liberty and the pursuit of hapiness.


I thought you could be HUMAN and discuss such things.
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#412465 - 09/02/04 10:49 AM Re: Are you Republican?
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Originally posted by Mr Socko:


That should not always be your defensive mechanism. I do not listen to Rush. He's arrogant, boastful and just plain boring.

He doesn't speak for me so don't judge me based on his views please.



Well I have listened to him practically every day for the last 6 years, and that is the same type of xenophobic, Alpha America, Neocon superiority that he spews.


All it does is seperates you from other people. Not a good way to go through life.
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#412466 - 09/02/04 10:54 AM Re: Are you Republican?
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my oh so dangerous and significant posts on a comic book website. Deal?


they would first have to be significant. You are free to comment all you want but wishing that they were doesn't make it so.
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#412467 - 09/02/04 11:09 AM Re: Are you Republican?
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As oppose to, say, an Austrian claiming to know something about the American dream?


Actually, I'd say Arnold knows all about the American dream. Here's an immigrant who came to be an actor and, through hard work (well, relatively speaking here) and determination, succeeded at that choice.

Hell, that's more American than some rich drunk getting jobs through daddy's connections, failing at all of them, getting a figurehead position, and barely becoming the leader of a nation through good friends in high places.

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