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#420385 - 04/10/05 06:35 AM Re: Official: No WMD in Iraq
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Will you give me enucleation lessons?

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#420386 - 04/10/05 03:50 PM Re: Official: No WMD in Iraq
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Originally posted by David Porta:
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Clinton was impeached, rightfully so.

Dubya is a waaay better president than Clinton.

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16 tons of shit smells just as bad as 6 tons of shit.
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#420387 - 04/11/05 03:20 PM Re: Official: No WMD in Iraq
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At this second gathering, our duties are defined not by the words I use, but by the history we have seen together. For a half-century, America defended our own freedom by standing watch on distant borders. After the shipwreck of communism came years of relative quiet, years of repose, years of sabbatical -- and then there came a day of fire.
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#420388 - 04/11/05 03:26 PM Re: Official: No WMD in Iraq
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And I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder. One of the four beasts saying "come and see".

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#420389 - 04/11/05 05:21 PM Re: Official: No WMD in Iraq
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And here I figured Mr Carroll a Preterist and not a Futurist
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#420390 - 04/11/05 05:42 PM Re: Official: No WMD in Iraq
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Across the generations we have proclaimed the imperative of self-government, because no one is fit to be a master, and no one deserves to be a slave. Advancing these ideals is the mission that created our nation.

That must've been news to the well-tanned individuals working Washington's, Jefferson's, and Madison's property.


In America's ideal of freedom, citizens find the dignity and security of economic independence, instead of laboring on the edge of subsistence. This is the broader definition of liberty that motivated the Homestead Act, the Social Security Act, and the G.I. Bill of Rights.

All of which George W. Bush and his GOP would have tried to kill.

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#420391 - 04/11/05 11:02 PM Re: Official: No WMD in Iraq
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Originally posted by geedis:
What the US government should do to prove that every country except us is a threat if they have nuclear weapons, is fire off all of our nukes and aim them for the nuke silos in those countries.

That aught to clear things up pronto.
Remind me never to go row boating with you. You'd likely shoot a hole in my end of the boat to prove a point because I've got a gun, not expecting your end to sink.

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#420392 - 04/12/05 10:04 AM Re: Official: No WMD in Iraq
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Slavers then and slavers now -

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Peter Dennis, The Washington Post, 2005/04/12-
"Anyone who was shocked by the most recent revelations of sexual misconduct by United Nations staff has never set foot in a U.N.-sponsored refugee camp. Sex crimes are only one especially disturbing symptom of a culture of abuse that exists in the United Nations precisely because the United Nations and its staff lack accountability.
This lack of accountability is the central blemish on today's United Nations, and it lies behind most of the recent headlines. Whether taking advantage of a malnourished refugee or of a lucrative oil-for-food contract, the temptation is there, the act is easy and the risk of punishment is nil.
I arrived in Sierra Leone as a legal aid worker in the summer of 2003, one year after the release of a damaging report on sexual abuse in U.N. refugee camps in West Africa. Although the report's description of widespread sexual abuse had prompted Secretary General Kofi Annan to issue a strongly worded "zero tolerance" policy, I found abuse of a sexual nature almost every day -- zero compliance with zero tolerance, as one investigator was to write. U.N. leaders had simply not expended any effort beyond lip service to carry out this zero tolerance policy.
In fact, abuse at these camps went beyond sexual violations: Injustices of one sort or another were perpetrated by U.N. missions or their affiliated nongovernmental organizations every day in the camps I visited. Corruption was the norm, in particular the embezzlement of food and funds by NGO officials, which often left camp resources dangerously inadequate. Utterly arbitrary judicial systems in the camps subjected refugees to violent physical punishment or months in prison for trivial offenses -- all at the whim of officials and in the absence of any sort of hearing."
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