Can anybody point out arguments from Reece that I didn't attempt to respond to for me? I've read through his responses and I might have missed something besides his position on free will vs. predestination.

He asked for evidence, and I quoted him repeatedly. His own responses have proven me right in several cases. He asked me a question about the King James Version and I suggested that they weren't persecuted for publishing it because it was sanctioned by a protestant government. This thread would be a lot shorter if I didn't offer rebuttals to the majority of the stuff he's said.

What am I forgetting? Seriously. If I missed something, I'll address it. If my answers are unsatisfactory, I'll attempt to clarify them.

And I won't give some two sentence non-answer and make some trite comment about being bored with the whole thing, either.

Oh, and bite me Madget.

Christ's love flowing!

Chomp, chomp, chomp.

K

I'm not at all surprised that of all the Democratic candidates, that nimrod was the one you liked the most. Who did you vote for in the general?

In the general? I voted for Dubya... mostly because he wasn't Kerry. I couldn't bring myself to vote for the guy again after I knew more about him, basically.

So what was your initial point, then? You started this by saying you were going to shake the foundation of who I thought you were, and you haven't done that in the least, Bush boy.

"There is more on heaven and earth than fits into your philosophy," for one thing...

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

Yeah, Bunny, he's a rebel--he once read a book that wasn't on the approved Christian Reading Room list, organized feeding the homeless at an inner city church and once ACTUALLY shook hands with a French Canadian Liberal (deadliest and most deluded by 'Mammon' of all North American Liberals).

But, seriously, Dumas! We want facts about what makes you so different from those around you, and no ill will intended.

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Philosophy is not the be-all and end-all. there are more things than simply "philosophy," however much you philosophers may wish it otherwise. When I was a security guard at the resue mission, there was this one old Mexican wino with a gravel voice, surely long dead by now, but I can still hear him: "Hey! I'm a philosopher!"

I think that's an old church term for non-believers.

Well, there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in "philosophy," old Mexican.

(The "your" can be entirely dispensed with. It adds no meaning to Shakespeare's intent. Read the context. The "your" is just a syllable that fulfils iambic pentameter.)

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Thanks for correcting my Shakepeare reference, eldritch11. I can't believe I screwed up that one.

My point was that Cisco used to spend a lot of time ranting about all the "republicans and evangelicals" ruining the country, and the two seem to be synonymous in his mind.

As I said on another thread recently, one of the things that makes me different is that I'm not much of a republican, really, and I don't even care about some of the issues in the republican agenda.

I'm sort of an environmentalist, and I'm a pacifist so I disagree with Dubya on a lot of issues... such as his interest in the Alaskan oil reserves and how the war in Iraq has been run.

So, politically, I don't fit Bunny's stereotype anywhere near as much as he thinks I do.

I was gonna drop this yesterday when it looked like the thread was petering out, but it's back, so...

All I'm saying is that the post to Dumas, in which you suggested the endurance test, contains no incentive to Dumas, since he does want to talk about religion. Actually, it's really not much incentive to you either, since, IMO, you want to satirize religious philosophies as much as Dumas wants to defend his particular set of beliefs. Your statement as I read it is pretty much on the level of what the Joseph Bologna character says to the Cameron Mitchell character in MY FAVORITE YEAR (great underrated flick, BTW): "If you don't wanna see [such-and-such an offensive sight], then don't watch." Similarly, you're really saying, "If you Dumas don't want to have your religious views poked at on the board, don't post them." Isn't that about the size of it, really?