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#43482 - 12/01/99 10:12 PM Not covers, PAGES!
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Hello. I've just registered, I read a bunch of the threads and I'd like to say thank you for the humor and the information presented here.

The subject I'd like to bring up is artists that I'd like to see pick up a pencil and draw pages. Pages. Seeing artists I enjoy do covers and inking makes me cringe.

I know that there are circumstances that make things be the way they are, yet I remain:
Fan with an Agenda (FWAA).

Here's my list of the aforementioned MIA's or coverees:

Al Williamson
Michael Wm. Kaluta
Jim Steranko (may be changing)
Mark Chiarello
Kent Williams
George Pratt
Howard Chaykin

COME BACK ONE AND AL! I mean ALL!

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#43483 - 12/02/99 01:11 AM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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Brian Bolland! And does anybody remember Sandy Plunkett?
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#43484 - 12/02/99 02:12 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Jeff Bartoletti Offline
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Rick-
I remeber Sandy Plunkett. Plunkett is awesome.

You can add Charest, Hughes, Schultz, Stevens
to the list.

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#43485 - 12/02/99 03:07 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Timothy J Miller Offline
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Well, RB beat me to Bolland, who actually has managed to put out a few short stories, generally in the first issues of Vertigo's assorted anthology miniseries.

Add the obvious names:
Dave McKean (self-written, please)
Bill Sienkiewicz

I'll second almost all prior nominees as well.

How does Charest make a living? 9 pages every 2 months? They ought to just have him do every third issue instead of stiffing us for half an issue.

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#43486 - 12/02/99 04:36 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Jeff Bartoletti Offline
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Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez can be added.

Well, Al Williamson does inking because he's slow with the pencil.

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#43487 - 12/02/99 05:28 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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I'd love to see Dave Dorman actually draw a comic with pen and ink, instead of painting covers.. I've seen some of his pen and ink work, and it's very good indeed.

David Mack (dammit man, I know you got the whole movie and daredevil thing happening, but please bring out Kabuki 9!)

Tim Bradstreet: he recently did one issue of Hellblazer and it was truly creepy art.

Glenn Fabry: the Preacher covers are great, but his ink work isn't bad either.


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#43488 - 12/02/99 08:13 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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There are many artists who I'd like to see doing anything (are you listening Steve Bissette?) Personally I'd love to see John Totleben get back to doing work like the Miracleman stuff he once did. The others listed previously almost all apply here as well (anyone else think Travis Charest did better stuff as Darkstars penciller with Scott Hanna inks??)


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#43489 - 12/04/99 11:48 AM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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Bradstreet, man I agree with that.

Sienkiewicz is drawing stories pretty actively, I liked the Oni Press stuff very much. Plus his inks are dominating most of the time.

I think Bolland suffers from a little lack of "umph" that he used to have. George Perez too, but again that's just my opinion.

Speaking of David Mack, mi Madre is a part of this rubber stamping hobby thing, and it has evolved strangely to include lots of things, journal art and mail art included. Well, she sends me a note yesterday voraciously asking if I'd heard of Kabuki. I gave her my take that the art was varying, but the better end was as good as it gets, and that it's lots of text.

So there's a weird ripple for you, that she and others might be influenced by Kabuki and take it around the country to "rubber stamper" conventions.


[This message has been edited by FWAA (edited 12-04-1999).]

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#43490 - 12/04/99 03:28 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez is, in my opinion, one of the finest comic artists around. I never tire of looking at his work...

anyone know if he's done any work recently??

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#43491 - 12/06/99 03:45 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Jeff Bartoletti Offline
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Mark-
He just did a Superman one-shot inked by mark Farmer.
Batman elseworld's one-shot last year.

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#43492 - 12/07/99 12:35 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Johanna Offline
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That Superman one-shot was called Superman, Inc., and it was surprisingly good. I enjoyed it a lot, in large part because it didn't fall into the Elseworlds trap of making things as close as possible to the "real" version. It also dealt with some of the comparisons between superheroes and sports stars. Overall, it felt like what Superman might have been in our world, one without the real-life superhero paradigm.

And of course, the art was beautiful and supported the story wonderfully.

Johanna

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#43493 - 12/07/99 07:21 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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#43494 - 12/08/99 04:46 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Jeff Bartoletti Offline
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MerkSat,
No, Charest looked like a bad Jim Lee on darkstars.

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#43495 - 12/08/99 04:50 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Jeff Bartoletti Offline
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I'm not looking for the artists to do a monthly or even bi-monthly.
I would be happy with a comic book a year from them.

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#43496 - 12/08/99 05:56 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Chris Medellin Offline
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Registered: 07/08/99
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I remember a few years back Matt Wagner did some Batman covers. I asked my retailer at the time if I could just tear off the covers, cuz I didn't want the comics just the cover art.
They gave me the dirtiest looks. can't imagine why...
Don't really mind good artists doing covers and inks, the good artists bring alot to the table. The only problem I have is when the interior art isn't equal to the cover art. Seeing Adam Hughes , or any other really talented artist , do a beautiful drool-inducing cover and opening the book to see Hack Ripoffartist sleeping through the art is really disappointing.

Put if you want the standard answer-
Adam Hughes
Steve Rude(i know he's doing that X-man thang, put he needs to produce on a regular basis)

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#43497 - 12/08/99 06:43 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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So, I'd guess we'd all rather see limited series from folks we miss drawing the pages of comics.

First, the tally so far and then ideas on how to get this to happen:


--Doing covers and/or inks, and we love seeing their work regardless, but again, we'd rather meet them inside the covers:

Al Williamson
Michael Wm. Kaluta
Jim Steranko (may be changing)
Tim Bradstreet
Glenn Fabry
Adam Hughes
Brian Bolland
Dave Johnson
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Either totally MIA or unheard from in a long time - we want you back, also doing pages:

Mark Chiarello
Kent Williams (might be changing)
George Pratt (might be changing)
Howard Chaykin
Sandy Plunkett
Dave Dorman
Mark Schultz
Kevin Eastman
Dave McKean
Dave Stevens
Alex Toth
Mike Saenz

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Infrequent or slowish pencillers whose work we love. We want to say thanks and please focus more on limited type series!


Travis Charest
Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez
Steve Bissette
Matt Wagner
Steve Rude
Bill Sienkiewicz
John Totleben
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My own personal comments - Chiarello I have been told works sales at DC. His work I thought raised the bar and we should NOT let him get away. Batman-Houdini was just a slice of his skills. I think he's the unbombastic version of Alex Ross with a dash of Muth.

And Al Williamson. Mr. Star Wars. More importantly, he has carried the banner of Flash Gordon longer than anyone.
Mr. Williamson IS a HUGE part of the entire world's collective consciousness. His recent Wildcat cover showed his pencilling is THERE. Even though still young - he's a living legend! Sort of OUR living legend! Why is he not pencilling?
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Okay. So, letters to the big companies, petitions, how do we support these folks and at the very least tell them we want more of what they do?

[This message has been edited by FWAA (edited 12-10-1999).]

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#43498 - 12/08/99 06:43 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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Edit away

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#43499 - 12/08/99 06:59 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Chris Medellin Offline
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Actuallly Chaykin is woking as a writer in Hollywood. I think he does story editing on Viper still. I saw his credit on ...sometnig I saw last weekend. Makes more money doing that than in comics.
Personally I'd like to know what Kaluta is doing, met him at a Dallas Fantasy Fair years and years ago. A really cool guy.
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#43500 - 12/08/99 08:06 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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Kaluta is doing more covers than ever for DC, anything with an elf or a cauldron it seems.

Chaykin can go to Hollywood I guess. I miss only his 70's stuff anyway, and I doubt we'd be lucky to get American Flagg quality, much less Crusty Bunkers type work if he did come back.

Hey speaking of the Dallas Fantasy Fairs, don't you miss THOSE? I grew up in Dall-ass, but have been in San Antonio for 7 years. There have been ZERO regional conventions here in all that time. Maybe 4 by our "chain" store. Ngggh.

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#43501 - 12/08/99 08:20 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Jeff Bartoletti Offline
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Kaluta's cover will also be seen on Aquaman.

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#43502 - 12/08/99 09:03 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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I sent an email to an address I found on a page with some Kaluta art, and the reply came back from him supposedly. I gushed a little and then mentioned that I'd really like to see more pages. A month and no reply. D'Oh!

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#43503 - 12/08/99 11:17 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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Quote:
Either totally MIA or unheard from in a long time - we want you back, also doing pages:
Kent Williams
George Pratt
John Totleben


I think Kent Williams is working on something for Vertigo and George Pratt is working on a painted Batman book but don't hold me to it. John Totleben did a Vertigo Dreaming issue this year. Absolutely gorgeous.


Quote:
Infrequent or slowish pencillers whose work we love. We want to say thanks and please think about more limited type series!
Bill Sienkiewicz


Had a story in Flinch, the Vertigo anthology.

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#43504 - 12/08/99 11:27 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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Actually, the first Mike Kaluta/Dan Jurgens/Steve Epting Aquaman issue is out, and the cover is absolutely gorgeous. (The interior art isn't bad either.)

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#43505 - 12/09/99 02:02 AM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
Timothy J Miller Offline
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I'm not just looking for anything from Sienkiewicz, I'm talking about doing the work we know he's capable of. The ink jobs he's been doing the last few years are just dress-up for mediocre pencillers to start with. I want a substantive chunk of MEAT, yo?

Someone else beat me to it, but I'll go on record all the same. Charest's Darkstars work is an embarrassment next to his current work. He's stepping out of Lee's shadow the way Sienkiewicz did from Neal Adams' thirteen years ago. I hope he has the sense to find material worthy of his increasingly considerable talents.

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#43506 - 12/09/99 10:30 AM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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I wish I'd been able to describe Darkstars that aptly. I just said "hunh, no thanks!" or something.

I don't know, I liked Sienkiewicz' Oni Press stuff, and I'm just happy every time I see him inside a comic book doing the pencils. So he stays in the "We want to say thanks and please focus more on limited type series!" section.

Karon, THANK You!

Okay, I made changes above. I added Schultz and Stevens who I'd overlooked from posts. And I added Toth and Michael Saenz (--of Shatter, Epic, Donna Matrix, and now porn software. We shouldn't let this avant-garde guy slip away.)
And Toth, he just gets better!

Has anyone seen the site: http://www.homeroom1.com/comics1.html

Correspondence with Wood, Goodwin, and Toth. The Wood letters will make you cry and the Toth letters will have you pounding your fist in agreement, especially #20.

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#43507 - 12/09/99 11:25 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
markalester Offline
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thanks jeff...

i'll go out and look for it... [img]http://207.69.158.95/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

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#43508 - 12/09/99 11:54 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
bryan fraser Offline
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how about dave johnson. i know he's doing covers for 100 bullets, but if he's doing pages, i don't know what they're in.

anybody know?

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#43509 - 12/11/99 12:25 PM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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I guess no one else agreed with me on Charest, oh well. I know for a fact that George Pratt is in the process of completing a 96 Page fully painted Batman Story similar in Presentation Style to Enemy Ace. He says that he expects it out before the end of 2000, barring something weird along the way. He has a website in the very early stages as well at www.georgepratt.com which has a list of a few things available from him and mentions the upcoming Batman book specifically.

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#43510 - 12/12/99 12:15 AM Re: Not covers, PAGES!
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Did I miss something here? Maybe Michael Golden. Unforunately, that disaster that was Jackie Chan's Spartan X may be the thing people remember(?)him for, if at all. Also, wouldn't mind some Art Adams on something he doesn't write.

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