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#453060 - 08/13/00 09:40 PM Re: What can Organized Readers do for you?
Karon Flage Offline
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RICK said, " Donations to ORCA ARE TAX DEDUCTABLE! At present, all donations are being underwritten by the Salvation Army."

What does this mean? A donation to ORCA goes to the Salvation Army? ORCA doesn't have a 501(c)3? How can it be non-profit otherwise?



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#453061 - 08/13/00 10:07 PM Re: What can Organized Readers do for you?
RICK Offline
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Hi Karon - It means that from now until years end, all donations coming to ORCA are going to passed along to the Salvation Army. Perhaps my use of the word, "underwritten" was confusing. Or there's a better chance that I used the wrong word to begin with.

Care to participate?


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#453062 - 08/15/00 12:58 AM Re: What can Organized Readers do for you?
Karon Flage Offline
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Okay, I'm even more confused. If I make a donation to ORCA, my money is actually going to the Salvation Army?

Why wouldn't I just make a donation to the Salvation Army if that was what I wanted to do?

How can it be tax deductable if the organization that I write a check to, in this case ORCA, isn't registered as a non-profit?

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#453063 - 08/15/00 05:52 AM Re: What can Organized Readers do for you?
RICK Offline
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Karon: ORCA is registered as a not-for-profit. For the remaining months in the year 2000, ORCA will be acting as a conduit to try and supply as many kids (via the Salvation Army) with comic books during their holiday brightening efforts. We're taking on four districts this year as a trial project and hope to supply more books to more districts next year.

In the way of actual CASH donations... ORCA has never gotten many, if any at all. Not that we wouldn't greatfully accept them...we would. But in the sense of donating COMIC BOOKS to ORCA, which is the primary reason we exist ... "to try and put comic books into the hands of people that do not read them" ... then, all books donated between now and December will be evaluated for the Salvation Army project.

Does that help you in understanding this better? If you, or anyone has any questions regarding this or anything else ORCA is involved with, kindly contact me off list. Thank you.



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#453064 - 08/15/00 07:32 AM Re: What can Organized Readers do for you?
jack Offline
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Registered: 11/11/99
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Can you show proof of your 501(c)3 status RICK?

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#453065 - 08/15/00 07:53 PM Re: What can Organized Readers do for you?
RICK Offline
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Oh... that's what this is? An ORCA head hunting party?

Jack, with all due respect: You've stated numerous times in the Gutters here on comicon.com that you have NO interest in being supportive in ANY way to ORCA's efforts. Sooooo... It doesn't take much to figure out that you're looking to be confrontational here in asking this question. And off the record, Jack... I don't need to prove anything regarding ORCA.

If I were Rick Veitch, I bounce your butt outta here for being so negative on other boards regarding your "participation" here on comicon.com

That was MY last reply to you anywhere!

Any other questions from anyone (other than Jack) can be emailed to: Founder@ORCAfresh.net

Thank you.



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#453066 - 08/16/00 05:11 AM Re: What can Organized Readers do for you?
jack Offline
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Guess that means you can't, RICK?

Why would anyone donate anything to you with an attitude like THAT???

Dennis, you ought to do something about your little barking dog before he ruins it for whats left of your organizations reputation. He's certainly fixed it so few (if any)retailers/creators from THIS board will ever work with you.

RICK the whole idea that I am the only one who has put you down is your fantasy. No one trusts or believes you. Tired of you bringing ORCA incongruously into EVERY conversation at will no matter WHAT the discussion. Tired of your insanity in the Gutters, which you then drag up here in the context of not being able to answer a straight question honestly.

While it's very true that we have had our extreme differences, and the BS from that comes from BOTH sides not just me to you RICK the truth is...if you had answered the straight question with a straight answer, I was considering listening.

But no, it's always like this from you.

At least I admit who I am, and don't act one way in the gutters and another up here. I don't lie to people about being "underwritten" by the Salvation Army, etc/

Keep your attacks to the Gutters RICK, and you won't get responses like this topside.

That was a straight question, one which you refused to answer. I would say, if you say you are a NON PROFIT then for people to donate to you, you have to show your status.

How bout it, Dennis? Since RICK can't handle it, just what exactly is your non-profit status? And exactly WHAT is your relationship with the Salvation Army, or are you simply making donations to them of books on your own, which is VERY admirable, but quite different from what was suggested by RICK, who you noticed quickly changed his rhetoric and became hysterical when asked two simple questions.




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#453067 - 08/16/00 08:10 AM Re: What can Organized Readers do for you?
MarciaA Offline
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Registered: 08/23/99
Posts: 127
Loc: England, UK
Jack,

In a bizarre coincidence, while undertaking some some business research unrelated to comics this week, I found that the IRS has an online source at http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/search/eosearch.html for checking Publication 78 (which seems to be a comprehensive list organisations with tax-deductable donation status).

I guess you could check the status of ORCA or others this way if you were concerned prior to making a donation anywhere.

In fact, http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/prod/forms_pubs/pubs/p526toc.htm is damned informative in general for anyone wanting to check the tax-deductible status of any gifts or donations.

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#453068 - 08/16/00 08:28 AM Re: What can Organized Readers do for you?
jack Offline
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As always, Marcia is the voice of reason. Thanks. I'll follow your suggestion......

ten minutes later
.....I just ran both search engines and found no listing for either ORCA or Organized Readers of Comics Associated as a tax exempt organization.

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#453069 - 08/16/00 09:51 AM Re: What can Organized Readers do for you?
Donovan Offline
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Registered: 07/19/99
Posts: 1106
Loc: Rochester, NY
This post is not intended as a slam, or to question RICK's agency. It is simply an anecdotal reference to a situation I currently live under and is intended only to caution against rash claims.

My employer, a legit non-profit agency and former United Way member agency, underwent a series of CEO changes and for reasons unknown lost their United Way status. Probably due to the questionable business practices of the new management, since they are currently under several investigations for Medicare, social security and federal funds fraud.

During all of this, United Way realized or was notified the agency had failed to remove its logo from the letters of solicitation it was sending, thereby implying continued status as a United Way company.

United Way is now pursuing legal action regarding any and all funds solicited under that pretense. Further, the agency's celebrity spokesman Doug Flutie cancelled his contract with the agency, partly due to the U.W. questions...

Again, I am not saying anyone is guilty of wrongdoing on this board, nor am I implying anyone is up to the same sort of nonsense as my bosses. I am not trying to cast doubt on ORCA or its representatives.

I simply caution that implying a relationship with a charitable agency when there is none is more than just a bad idea, it is a legally actionable statement that can lead to financial and/or criminal repercussions. PLEASE be careful...

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