I think I'm almost done here. One thing I've noticed throughout the years is that more unreasonable a belief system, the tighter it is clutched to the bosom of the weak-minded. And weak minds always travel in packs. I will end with my personal motto:

"Strength through Diversity
Unity through Common Purpose"

Korvac, you are obviously not an American. Do you come from a country saved by America from the Axis powers in World War Two? Do you come from a country that was rebuilt by the American Marshall plan after World War Two?

After you answer, kiss my ass.

To all those wondering, yes, I'm talking to local military recruiters right now, though I may be too old.

When suicide terrorists start mass-murdering innocent civilians under direct Falwell orders, only then will I agree with you.

And yes, I am just as glad as you are for the government not being able to stop the free exercise of religion, but in no way is that Separation of Church & State, no matter how hard we all wish upon a star.

I understand where Falwell was coming from (a nation being punished for its sins by having divine protection removed), but I think even he understands (now) that it was a highly inappropriate, untimely, and callous thing to say.

Unlike a few here that continue their callousness.

TTM

You've finally said something that nobody can argue with.



I think they prefer the term "candlelight vigil."

I would say that it's "institutions of higher learning"...

Here's FALWELL's APOLOGY:
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The Rev. Jerry Falwell apologized Monday for saying God had allowed terrorists to attack America because of the work of civil liberties groups, abortion
rights supporters and feminists. Falwell said his comments were ill-timed, insensitive and divisive at a time of national mourning. President Bush had called the
minister's statement inappropriate.

"In the midst of the shock and mourning of a dark week for America, I made a statement that I should not have made and which I sincerely regret," Falwell
said.

He added: "I want to apologize to every American, including those I named."

In an interview Thursday during religious broadcaster Pat Robertson's TV program "The 700 Club," Falwell blamed the devastation on pagans, abortionists,
feminists, homosexuals, the American Civil Liberties Union and the People for the American Way.

"All of them who have tried to secularize America, I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen,'" he said.

Falwell, a Baptist minister and chancellor of Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., also expressed a belief shared by other evangelicals that divine protection is
withdrawn from nations that violate God's will.

However, some Christian thinkers warned there was no way to know which sin led to which punishment. On Monday, Falwell agreed.

"When I talked about God lifting the curtain of protection on our nation, I should have made it very clear that no one on this earth knows whether or not that
occurred or did not occur," he said.

He said if the destruction was a judgment from God it was a judgment on all sinners, including himself.

Falwell told The Associated Press that no one from the evangelical community or the White House pressured him to apologize.

However, he said a White House representative called him Friday while he was driving to the National Cathedral memorial service in Washington, and told
him the president disapproved.

Falwell said he told the White House that he also felt he had misspoken.

Falwell made his apology minutes after Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network released its own statement calling Falwell's on-air remarks "severe and
harsh in tone and, frankly, not fully understood" by Robertson and his two co-hosts.

During last week's broadcast, Robertson had agreed when Falwell said, "God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us
probably what we deserve."

Angell Watts, a spokeswoman for Robertson's network, did not return calls Monday seeking comment.
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TTM

>>>Korvac, you are obviously not an American. Do you come from a country saved by America from the Axis powers in World War Two? Do you come from a country that was rebuilt by the American Marshall plan after World War Two?<<<

No, actually I live in a country (Canada) that was fighting World War II for two years before The U.S. finally decided to show up.

As to the complex and thought provoking proposals in the rest of your post, on reflection, no, I don't think I will kiss your ass. But hey, don't let me stop you from finding your kicks in any way you wish. One thing about us Leftists, we support alternative sexual lifestyles.

Well, that's not really fair to Bob Jones University.

Someone (can't recall who) said : "When suicide terrorists start mass-murdering innocent civilians under direct Falwell orders, only then will I agree with you."

Actually, they already have. Doctors providing abortions. There are over 200 homegrown American terrorist cells following Falwell and his ilk's moral mandates.

Moving on.

Carlton, I will sincerely pray for you tonight. You are in a tunnel of darkness. You cannot see a way out, except through hatred and revenge. I hope that God will lighten your soul.

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred ... let me sow love
Where there is injury ... pardon
Where there is doubt ... faith
Where there is despair ... hope
Where there is darkness ... light
Where there is sadness ... joy

JM

And speaking of strong minds:

Marcher with American flag on why he was part of small mob threatening a mosque and taunting Arab Americans, many of whom were born here, just as he was:

"I was born here more."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/quicktakes/cst-nws-qt17.html

[This message has been edited by Beck Atcha (edited 09-17-2001).]

To the 'my country, right or wrong' types, a thoughtfull message:
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2001/09/18/flag/index.html