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#476917 - 10/08/01 07:37 PM Hey! Look what I found!
betty brant Offline
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ARTICLE I, Section 8:
"Congress shall have the power... To declare war."

Has anybody in Washington read this?

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#476918 - 10/08/01 07:43 PM Re: Hey! Look what I found!
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You worried about procedure or differences in opinion?

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#476919 - 10/08/01 08:00 PM Re: Hey! Look what I found!
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Is that what our Constitution has become? "Procedure"?

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#476920 - 10/08/01 08:07 PM Re: Hey! Look what I found!
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No war has been declared Betty.

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#476921 - 10/08/01 08:21 PM Re: Hey! Look what I found!
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Why would they bother reading it now? They never bothered to for Vietnam.

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#476922 - 10/08/01 08:32 PM Re: Hey! Look what I found!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Hicks:
No war has been declared Betty.


No war has been declared in 60 years. That war ended 4 years later and we've been a peaceful nation ever since.

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#476923 - 10/08/01 08:34 PM Re: Hey! Look what I found!
betty brant Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by The Dude:
Why would they bother reading it now? They never bothered to for Vietnam.


Better late than never?

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#476924 - 10/08/01 09:32 PM Re: Hey! Look what I found!
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Bill Hicks:
"No war has been declared Betty."

Uh, Bill, maybe you missed that speech by Bush where he said "Make no mistake, we are at war."

Or, uh, in exactly what way is bombing a country not an act of war?

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#476925 - 10/08/01 09:44 PM Re: Hey! Look what I found!
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Ok, I guess I have to clarify this now. Betty's original post implies that there is a constitutional issue here. Only Congress can declare war and there has been no formal declaration of war, therefore there is no Consititutional issue here.

To be frank, there has been no declaration of war (though there has been plenty of war) from this country for 60+ years because those on the left side of the isle are squeamish about using the word.

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#476926 - 10/09/01 12:05 AM Re: Hey! Look what I found!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Hicks:
Ok, I guess I have to clarify this now. Betty's original post implies that there is a constitutional issue here. Only Congress can declare war and there has been no formal declaration of war, therefore there is no Consititutional issue here.


It's not a war if we don't call it a war. Is the latest euphemism still "sending a message"? That's what we do nowadays, send messages. "We must send them a message!" It's always the same message: "Ka-BOOM!"

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To be frank, there has been no declaration of war (though there has been plenty of war) from this country for 60+ years because those on the left side of the isle are squeamish about using the word.


"...those on the left side of the isle..." You mean the Republicans who control both houses of Congress?

[Edited because Betty made a boo-boo. The Republicans don't have the Senate right now, do they? That's why the Senate has become so liberal, because of those peace-loving Democrats, who are so outraged by Bush's dropping bombs by Presidential decree. Sorry. Sometimes I have trouble telling the pigs apart from the farmers.]

[This message has been edited by betty brant (edited 10-09-2001).]

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