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#493644 - 06/05/02 12:02 AM "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
darryl comix Offline
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it has just come to everybody's attention that WBAI(99.5FM in New York City) has cancelled Tuesday Night's comic book radio show called "Nuff Said."

it has been on for nine years, in almost as many time slots. the main host Ken Gale( nuffsaid@escape.com ) has made it abundantly clear that this show is finally dead.

that is unless we as a community of people can get together and convince Mr. Bernard White, the Programing Director at BAI that this show is VERY relevant and VERY important.

I've done my part; I've emailed Mr. White at burnardwhite@aol.com

The cancellation of Nuff Said was unfair. its a fairly high-rated show, and has many many listeners. the rest of BAI's programming schedule seems to revolve around political issues(BAI is a listener-sponsored, non-commercial radio station that focuses a lot of attention on the underside of the world's socio-economic-political systems. However, Nuff Said never pigeonholed itself; it kept an open mind about any and ALL aspects of cartooning and comics; mainstream, alternative, political, sexual, racial, foreign, local, underground, Golden Age, Silver Age, current day, etc.

no matter what your interest in comics is, there was at least ONE "Nuff Said" show that you would have had an interest.

you could have also heard Nuff Said on the internet, anywhere in the country(world?). www.comicbookradioshow.com is the new website(the original was actually "hijacked" and turned into a porn site against the creators' will). the new site should be up and running 24-hours from now, according to Mr. Gale.

In the meantime, another BAI program "Carrier Wave" with Sidney Smith will allot a certain amount of showtime to keeping "Nuff Said" alive. That's teamwork!
so email, call the station(I don't have the numbers, sorry) and help save an excellent program.

again, even outside of New York, you ca catch the show on www.comicbookradioshow.com if and when its saved. until then, that site will have news about where the show will be appearing and so on.

go comics.

-Darryl Brathwaite.

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#493645 - 06/05/02 09:14 AM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Elayne Riggs Offline
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Darryl, thanks for clearing up what happened to the old website! One question: Bernard White's e-mail address doesn't seem to match the spelling of his name. Are you sure it's correct?

In an area where it seems impossible to hold a decent convention but where the Big Two comics companies are actually situated, Nuff Said has been a terrific and indispensable part of the NYC comics scene. It would be a shame to lose it.

- Elayne
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#493646 - 06/05/02 10:10 AM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Scout99 Offline
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Darryl, here are the ways to contact the station.


To mail: Bernard White, c/o WBAI-FM, 120 Wall Street, 12th Floor, NYC 10005.

To call: 212-209-2800 (station phone number) or 212-209-2834 (Mr. White's office number)

It would a damn shame if we lose this radio show because it's the only one around in the US. I called Ken and found out there was another radio show like Nuff Said, yet it's in Western Canada. frown

We, the fans, creators and publishers, have to save this show. It's our right to save it! Except for Howie Stern (my preference), The Golden Age of Radio with Max Schimd (also on WBAI) and the all-news stations, there's nothing really good on radio. No one wants to hear boring, self-inflated conservatives like Limbore and O'wRetched all the time.

Yes, Elayne, the e-mail address is correct.

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#493647 - 06/05/02 11:36 AM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Chris Knowles Offline
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I was a regular listener to Nuff Said and I am surprised it lasted as long as it did. When Ken's partner left a year or so back, I saw the writing on the wall. I don't think Ken was able to produce the show as well alone. Also, I hate to say it, but the show's performance was pretty dismal when it came to pledge drives, especially for a evening show. I think BAI let them hang on for a good while, but the show was pretty much out of step with the station's listenership.

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#493648 - 06/05/02 11:43 AM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
JohnEWIlliams Offline
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"Can I give a message? I'd just like to say, um... let's have some music now, huh?"

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#493649 - 06/05/02 12:06 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Scout99 Offline
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Uh, John, "Nuff Said" is, or was, the only comic book radio show around. You want it to go down? You're a real fanboy, pal.


:rolleyes:

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#493650 - 06/05/02 12:39 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
JohnEWIlliams Offline
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Scout, if you keep misinterpretin' my joke posts you're gonna give me a complex. It was a joke for Mr. Knowles' benefit, and for anyone else who's familiar with the Clash. Hardly worth gettin' all snitty about. (Even if you didn't get the joke, the quotation marks mighta tipped you off that I wasn't trying to piss on yer parade.)

This marks the first time I've ever been called a fanboy.

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#493651 - 06/05/02 01:05 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Scout99 Offline
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Thank you for clearing that up. I apologize.

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#493652 - 06/05/02 01:29 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
JohnEWIlliams Offline
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All's well. Get on them e-mails, folks!

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#493653 - 06/05/02 01:48 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Elayne Riggs Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chris Knowles:
I was a regular listener to Nuff Said and I am surprised it lasted as long as it did. When Ken's partner left a year or so back, I saw the writing on the wall. I don't think Ken was able to produce the show as well alone.


He doesn't. Mercy is now his co-host on the show as well as in life.

- Elayne
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#493654 - 06/05/02 01:55 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Dan Carroll Offline
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Can I make a reccomendation? I've never heard the show, but from what you guys say it sounds pretty good and worth saving. So here's my advice.

Send POLITE e-mails. Not accusing anyone of anything, I just know how these things can be messed up by the super-overenthusiastic. Write the guy, but write nicely and only once. Otherwise he'll just ignore anyone who writes in.

There we go, I'm all done.

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#493655 - 06/05/02 02:43 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Scout99 Offline
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Elayne, I didn't know Ken and Mercy were...


Fanboy Meets Fangirl. Awwww.... smile

By the way, Dan, I followed your advice before you gave it out. As a matter of fact...


Dear Mr. White:


When I heard about the cancellation of the comic book talk radio show, "Nuff Said", I was shocked to find out that it was due to its so-called "narrow focus". Comic books are anything else but narrow, let alone superheroes.
This medium has been unfairly demonized, ever since that fraud of a psychiatrist, Dr. Frederic Wertham, wrote "Seduction Of The Innoccent" (1954), a book that treated comic books as the incubators of juvenile deliquency in the 1950s. Under pressure from the government, parent-teacher groups and the clergy, the industry was forced to regulate themselves with the Comics Code Authority, enforcing rules of morality. The code is now meaningless, due to the changing social atmosphere; comic books are more than just muscle-bound, costumed warriors.
The venue has approached the subjects of sex, politics, history, race, religion, personal experience and others. In fact, comic books were the first entertainment venue that responded to the 9/11 attacks. There was nothing like Superman vs. Osama Bin Laden; there were books that contained feelings of sadness, pain and hope, within one panel or more. Also, the literary world has accepted comic books as being bonafide, with artist Art Spiegelman winning the Pultizer Prize for "Maus", an vivid account of the Holocaust that was experienced by the author's parents, in 1987. Plus, Michael Chabon earned the same prize for his novel, "The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay", a tale of two comic book creators who, despite personal and professional obstacles, manage to accomplish the Great American Dream.
Being the program director of a progressive thinking radio station, I would
implore that you reconsider your decision to end "Nuff Said". Having no mainstream counterpart, it's an important audio haven for the comic book industry.


Sincerely,
Roy Phillips

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#493656 - 06/05/02 02:51 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Dan Carroll Offline
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That's the way! Take a cue from this man, people!

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#493657 - 06/05/02 02:56 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Scout99 Offline
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You're making me blush, Dan! laugh

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#493658 - 06/05/02 04:05 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Chris Knowles Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Elayne Riggs:


He doesn't. Mercy is now his co-host on the show as well as in life.

- Elayne


I'm talking about production, not hosting.

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#493659 - 06/05/02 04:22 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Elayne Riggs Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scout99:
Elayne, I didn't know Ken and Mercy were...

Fanboy Meets Fangirl. Awwww.... smile


Oh, too true. Ken and Mercy have been, well, Ken and Mercy for years and years. They throw the best annual Paleozoic Party around. Great mix of people from sf, comics, you name it, fans and pros alike. In fact, the next Party's coming up in just about a month and a half...

And great letter, by the way.

- Elayne
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#493660 - 06/05/02 09:48 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Elayne Riggs Offline
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Update from Ken:

Quote:
I spoke to Bernard myself today. He now uses the term "hiatus" instead of cancellation. I think you're already having an effect. No, he will not restore the show right now (yet?). And he defined "narrow focus" to mean that comics appeal mostly to middle-class white males. I told him it's been changing since the '60s, when the distributor that blocked southern distribution of comics with black characters retired or something. Since then, there have been more black characters bringing in more black creators who introduced more black characters and the independent field has a LARGE female and minority representation. However, as a white male myself, I think my voice is not as loud as [others] in that regard. I also told him about the large number of Spanish comics in New York City, brought in from South America. He didn't know about them (Mercy Van Vlack collects them so she was able to tell him how much they cost).

Our conversation was quite civil, I'm glad to say. I think there's a good chance that if there's enough of us reaching him, we can restore the show - for which I do not get paid, I might add, I'm doing this because I love the art form (if not the industry, as Gil Kane used to say).

Thank you, everyone. I can't begin to describe how uplifting your support has been.

Ken Gale
producer/interviewer/co-host
'Nuff Said!, WBAI-FM, NYC
www.comicbookradioshow.com
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"Life is truly normal only when people feel safe enough to critique, defend, and analyze art and popular culture." - Lisa Schwarzbaum
Click here for my blog, Pen-Elayne on the Web
Click here for Robin Riggs' latest interview

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#493661 - 06/06/02 03:03 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Scout99 Offline
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Thanks for the update, Elayne! There's always hope! cool

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#493662 - 06/06/02 03:47 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
Bill Hicks Offline
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Note to self: call John E. a fanboy.

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#493663 - 06/06/02 07:26 PM Re: "NUFF SAID," New York and World Wide...save the only show about comics!!
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http://www.wizardworld.com

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