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#494828 - 07/01/02 12:39 AM
Re: Any artists want to help me slag Dubya?
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 20
Loc: Wisconsin
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Why is everyone so worried about what Marc is worried about? Lighten up, Francises. If he wants to satirize American politics, let him. If you want to satirize Marc satirizing American politics, then more power to you. Not an artist, but I would be interested in reading those comics.
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#494829 - 07/01/02 12:53 AM
Re: Any artists want to help me slag Dubya?
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Registered: 07/01/02
Posts: 1
Loc: DC
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Hmm... do I wanna help 'slag' my Commander-in-Chief? Do I wanna help slag the President of the country who has helped advance the rights and well-being of more people than any other country *ever* in history?
Umm... no? Might I refer you to any artists of any quality who might? I fear being redundant here, but how about... 'no'?
As an American citizen, I had a vote during the elections. Once the elections ended, he had been selected as the point-man to act as our unified voice when dealing with the rest of the world. If you voted for him, you might support him. If you voted against him, you might find resons to blame him for all the ills of the world or ridicule him for making choices that you don't understand. But let's see, *you* didn't vote at all! You're a Canadian. Now, I have plenty of friends that are Canadian and several Quebeqois amis, as well. But how about you deal with your own problems before you look to take care of ours.
As to the knob who tried to sound 'worldly' by mentioning the Middle East, how would you like to be in a position of responsibility for over 250 million souls and have some madman decry our lifestyles and successes decide to bomb your neighbourhood school? Wait, but first he buys municipal bonds and a local construction company to make a maximal profit on it (that 'profit' being what he claims makes us all so evil). This is similar to his selling short $150M USD stock in three international indemnity companies prior to absconding with 4 transcontinental aircraft and dropping them into some high profile real estate.
You feel that the actions of the United States President and his armed forces aren't beneficial? You feel that he isn't protecting Totonto and B.C as well as London, Paris, Tokyo and the rest of the Western world? You feel that he's a fool and is wasting all of our precious time and resources? Sir, if you truly think that then I anxiously await your efforts to improve the situation along with your pewling complaints. Because anybody can whine about something they don't like. It takes real courage to affect positive change in the face of adversity. It is far easier to tear down and destroy, even if it is merely labeled 'satire' than it is to build up and make better.
May it bring you joy.
CB
(there will be no further posts from me about this. There doesn't appear to be anything constructive to say.)
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#494830 - 07/01/02 01:46 AM
Re: Any artists want to help me slag Dubya?
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Registered: 09/05/99
Posts: 67
Loc: Montreal, Quebec
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Bush hasn't been elected. He won with a rigged jury in his brother's state.
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#494831 - 07/01/02 01:47 AM
Re: Any artists want to help me slag Dubya?
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Registered: 12/15/98
Posts: 70
Loc: Kingston, ON, Canada
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But how about you deal with your own problems before you look to take care of ours. I thought I already dealt with that concern. I am not looking to take care of any of your problems. I want to make a comment about a moron. That's it. I'm not going to show up at your house and start rearranging the furniture. I'm simply going to make a website in which I make fun of a doofus. 'kay? You feel that the actions of the United States President and his armed forces aren't beneficial? You feel that he isn't protecting Totonto and B.C as well as London, Paris, Tokyo and the rest of the Western world? Two responses to that. 1) When the heck did I say that? 2) You're contradicting yourself. If I *should* feel that the U.S. President and his armed forces are my protectors, surely I have as much of a right to criticize them as American citizens do. By saying that he is the protector of the Western World, he *is* one of my problems that your referenced in the first quote above. You feel that he's a fool and is wasting all of our precious time and resources? Oh, much more than that. Sir, if you truly think that then I anxiously await your efforts to improve the situation along with your pewling complaints. No need to "await" them. I am, have been, and will be trying to improve "the situation" for my whole life. The problem is that Dubya has a lot more power than I do. Buying a low-emissions car is good, but when one of my earth-neighbours decides that it's okay for his 280 million wards to acceleration global warming, my contribution sorta gets trumped. It is far easier to tear down and destroy, even if it is merely labeled 'satire' than it is to build up and make better. Consider the presumptuousness of your post in this context. And then consider that stopping evil is just as constructive as doing good. -- Marc.
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#494832 - 07/01/02 05:25 AM
Re: Any artists want to help me slag Dubya?
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Registered: 03/02/02
Posts: 594
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I say we start making fun of a Canadian doofus. You.
Why are you carrying a chip on your shoulder for South Park pissing on Canada with Blame Canada?
Are you related to a certain transplanted Canadian(now in U.S.) named McFarlane?
I am just getting started satirizing you.
If you are so worried about pollution, global warming, I assume you don't drive a car, and don't use anything that would use petrol. If you do, you are a hypocrite.
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#494833 - 07/01/02 06:19 AM
Re: Any artists want to help me slag Dubya?
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Registered: 01/26/02
Posts: 173
Loc: Portland OR
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Marc,
I'm with you all the way on the whole Bush thing. The man's an idiot who's in the wrong on nearly every policy I've seen him take a stance on.
I'm frankly quite surprised to see so many Americans so up in arms over someone excercising the very freedoms that we're theoretically fighting for.
I'm afraid I'm too busy to help you out with your website right now, Marc, but I wanted to throw my 2 cents in.
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#494834 - 07/01/02 06:21 AM
Re: Any artists want to help me slag Dubya?
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Registered: 01/26/02
Posts: 173
Loc: Portland OR
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Originally posted by -Catboy:
Umm... no? Might I refer you to any artists of any quality who might? I fear being redundant here, but how about... 'no'?
So all the good artists are rabid anti-free thought conservatives? How convenient. I guess I'm not an artist of quality, then. I don't think I'd want you reading my stuff anyhow.
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#494835 - 07/01/02 06:21 AM
Re: Any artists want to help me slag Dubya?
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Registered: 05/13/01
Posts: 91
Loc: Berkeley, CA, USA
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procrastination-fueled tangent alert: Originally posted by -Catboy: Hmm... do I wanna help 'slag' my Commander-in-Chief? Do I wanna help slag the President of the country who has helped advance the rights and well-being of more people than any other country *ever* in history? Even if that dubious claim is true, Bush and crew are doing their best to undo any past advances (ask any Enron employee/stockholder, Afghani child, AIDS victim, any woman anywhere who needs unbiased medical information about pregnancy and birth control). It's pretty clear where his priorities are. Umm... no? Might I refer you to any artists of any quality who might? I fear being redundant here, but how about... 'no'? So you are saying that you can't be a good artist without being blindly dogmatic. ...But how about you deal with your own problems before you look to take care of ours. I think its safe to say that most of "our" problems affect a whole lot more people than just "us" (see above). As to the knob who tried to sound 'worldly' by mentioning the Middle East, how would you like to be in a position of responsibility for over 250 million souls and have some madman decry our lifestyles and successes decide to bomb your neighbourhood school? Wait, but first he buys municipal bonds and a local construction company to make a maximal profit on it (that 'profit' being what he claims makes us all so evil). This is similar to his selling short $150M USD stock in three international indemnity companies prior to absconding with 4 transcontinental aircraft and dropping them into some high profile real estate. I've read this paragraph 5 times and still have no clue what you are trying to say. You feel that the actions of the United States President and his armed forces aren't beneficial? You feel that he isn't protecting Totonto and B.C as well as London, Paris, Tokyo and the rest of the Western world? You have a point...he *is* protecting energy executives and defense contractors around the world. You feel that he's a fool and is wasting all of our precious time and resources? Sir, if you truly think that then I anxiously await your efforts to improve the situation along with your pewling complaints. Because anybody can whine about something they don't like. ...Unless they are from Canada, then it isn't any of their business. It takes real courage to affect positive change in the face of adversity. It is far easier to tear down and destroy, even if it is merely labeled 'satire' than it is to build up and make better. Some things/administrations/political systems/cultures need to be torn down regardless of how easy it is.
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#494836 - 07/01/02 07:20 AM
Re: Any artists want to help me slag Dubya?
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Registered: 06/23/01
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Marc, don't mind these people. They think that the principles of the First Amendment only apply to them.
Oh, and Catboy, if you really think your rights have been advanced under the Bush regime, you might want to do some reading about the fourth amendment.
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#494837 - 07/01/02 07:29 AM
Re: Any artists want to help me slag Dubya?
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Registered: 07/04/99
Posts: 73
Loc: New Hampshire
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I like President Bush and have no desire to "slag" him, but it is the perfect right of anyone to criticize, satirize or even smear the President. It is irrelevant who they are or where they live.
As for the comment by Theriault that Bush was not elected: I followed the debacle in Florida very closely and it was clear to me that it was the Gore people who were trying to steal the election. The Democrats have a decades long history of outrageous election fraud in Florida; they just couldn't pull it off in this case. Better luck next time.
However, no matter what your opinion is on this subject, if you understand how national elections work in the US it should be obvious that Bush's election is undisputably legal and legitimate.
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