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#497180 - 08/16/02 07:26 AM Re: Meltdown on the Byrne Board?
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Hmm, this is actually starting to get interesting now.

Mind you don't bite off more than you can chew, Shoehorn (or whatever your name is). Once you piss IJ off, he's like a pitbull with a baby. wink

And for the record, I don't think pal is really Byrne. The man's way too arrogant to bother with an alias, and, come to think of it, wouldn't even venture out in this direction due to the fact he doesn't have 99% of the posters fawning over his every word.

But come to think of it, pal's been awful quiet on this thread for far too long. What gives? Can't post as two different socks at the one time?
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#497181 - 08/16/02 11:23 AM Re: Meltdown on the Byrne Board?
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Originally posted by paulski:
And for the record, I don't think pal is really Byrne. The man's way too arrogant to bother with an alias, and, come to think of it, wouldn't even venture out in this direction due to the fact he doesn't have 99% of the posters fawning over his every word.


Well, that, or he really doesn't give a rip what we think. The man might actually be self-secure, despite being often wrong and arrogant.
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#497182 - 08/16/02 11:34 AM Re: Meltdown on the Byrne Board?
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Originally posted by paulski:
But come to think of it, pal's been awful quiet on this thread for far too long. What gives? Can't post as two different socks at the one time?


Well, that is the obvious inference we can draw. After all, the current anonymite-with-attitude seems to have adopted the "palsunstar" bag of arguing tricks (ignoring content, misstating arguments, personal attacks, the accusations and indignation when you point out his logical errors, denial and studied obtuseness) and seems to have popped up from nowhere while the poster he defends silmultaneously disappears. None the less, I think the guy with the admitted shoelace fetish is more likely just another internet idiot with poor writing and comprehension skills looking for an opportunity to fatten his wizened self esteem by finding an outlet for his anger about his own intellectual impotence.

It's easy to see the pattern of the pointless poster, and hope that it's just one fool posting the same way over and over and over again, but sadly the dearth of originality is epidemic. This anonymite might indeed be the earlier anonymite, or they might never have encountered one another at all, but at heart (or more accurately, in thought) they're one and the same; no point anonymous posters who want nothing more than weak excuses to lay their premise of attack upon.

I guess the question boils down to this; does it really make a difference whether this is one louse or two lice? You still just need to step on them.

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#497183 - 08/16/02 11:41 AM Re: Meltdown on the Byrne Board?
IvanJim Offline
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Originally posted by Mark Allen:


Well, that, or (Byrne) really doesn't give a rip what we think. The man might actually be self-secure, despite being often wrong and arrogant.


Self-secure? Nahhhh!


There's a darned good probability that he'd tell himself that his critics are neither worthy of respect nor response, but his attacks and defensiveness would argue for many things about the man that suggest a raging insecurity. Not to say that he'd actually come to this site, but people who are as thin skinned as he presents are almost never self-secure.

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#497184 - 08/16/02 12:22 PM Re: Meltdown on the Byrne Board?
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Originally posted by Chemo:


From what I've seen on the Newsgroups, and going on memory of the Byrne board, I'm sure about Byrne saying that the terrorists and anyone connected to them, including their relatives, their butchers, their bakers, their candlestick makers, and such, around the week that the WTC incident occurred.

There was some sort of discussion about Dublin somewhere, but I can't remember much about it. Perhaps Rich Johnston can remember?


Well, since Byrne is actually a Brit by birth, that's a most interesting view. Those Irish, can't something be done about them?...

And I thought my opinion of him had a floor. I had no idea.

>Self-secure? Nahhhh!

Keep in mind this is the same master of draftsmanship that once tried to impress a roomful of fanboys by snottily mocking Gene Colan, and also proudly proclaimed his :company man" stand while still trying to look like a rebel for standing up to editors on such important issues as the She-Hulk's leg hair.

Contemptible little twit that he seems to want to be seen as..
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#497185 - 08/16/02 12:24 PM Re: Meltdown on the Byrne Board?
John Roberson Offline
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Originally posted by Elayne Riggs:
Paul is not John. John is not Paul. John was, however, the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joob.

- Elayne


I was the Walrus! PAUL wasn't the Walrus! I was just saying that to be nice but I was actually the Walrus!
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#497186 - 08/16/02 12:47 PM Re: Meltdown on the Byrne Board?
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Originally posted by John Roberson:


I was the Walrus! PAUL wasn't the Walrus! I was just saying that to be nice but I was actually the Walrus!


Ah, here's another clue for you all...

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#497187 - 08/16/02 01:25 PM Re: Meltdown on the Byrne Board?
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Originally posted by PAL:

Presumptions are as bad as assumptions.

Sanity? Yes. Reason? No.

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Originally posted by IvanJim:
Economy is relative. Using only ten words in two posts might seem a wise and economical use of language, but oddly enough the two posts share a trait with the posts of a raver who blathers on for pages and pages trying to obscure points that other posters have driven home.


Or perhaps the 'raver' in question realizes that someone has far too much time on their hands worrying about a conspiracy of one, and feels the need to be straight & to the point?
Nahhhh.

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Absolutely no true content shines through those ten measly words.


To an apparent anti-Byrne fanatic? Of course not.

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Originally posted by IvanJim:
I do wish this anonymite well, but the actual point of my post hasn't really been addressed.


If there was an 'actual' point to your post, there would be an 'actual' response, but your little conspiracy theory is petty & ridiculous, and smacks of an overactive imagination.

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Originally posted by IvanJim:
While it's quite possible that JB isn't posting anonymously, it's also not an unreasonable conclusion to draw. Despite his pronouncements that he can't be bothered to read or post anywhere but his own board, the personality and attitude that he's routinely displayed argue that it's quite possible he'd travel far and wide (in a cybernetic manner of speaking) to defend his name and reputation. The ego and aloofness displayed would certainly be an acceptable rationale for believing that he'd post under a construct.


Only to those with some sort of paranoia. It seems to me that devoting this amount of 'thought' to something that cannot be truly proven smacks of paranoia.

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In truth, though, it's just as possible that Palsunstar is a poster with a less than healthy self image who actually is who and what he claims to be. This would be unfortunate in that it would mean that this person has posted more than 325 times with the gist of almost every single post being an attack on anyone who has something negative to say about John Byrne.


Unhealthy to speak 'publicly' against those whose negative agendas are so blatantly hate-filled and derogatory. Unhealthy to stand up against those whose intentions are very obviously meant to be cruel and hurtful.
Speaking against negativity is unhealthy? What an odd concept.

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Originally posted by IvanJim:
Please note that the "palsunstar" posting only rarely even bothers to defend Byrne's artistic choices. Nor does the entity wax at any great length as to why Byrne is more important to defend and comment on than ANY OTHER TOPIC WHATSOEVER. The only purposes of "palsunstar" postings are inevitably tied into all things Byrne.


It's called staying in focus and not getting bogged down with every single petty 'feud' that rears it's ugly head. If I 'involved' myself with all of the other inanities that overwhelm the 'Net, I'd have no time to pursue other interests {cue trollish immature potshots}.
So, I chose my 'ground' in which to stand. This is my 'cause' so to speak, or my agenda.
In reality (look it up!), this takes very little time out of my Internet experience (and life in general), so it's a fairly 'easy' agenda to follow. {cue more trollish wackiness}
I don't jump into the mature and well-thought out posts. I jump into the immature and little-thought-required posts, for lack of a better term.
I could understand the 'conern' if you thought I was 'defending' JB for slaughtering baby-seals or worshipping the Devil. But being 'accused' of doing wrong for speaking up when someone is very obviously besmirched? Weird.

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Originally posted by IvanJim:
Therefore, it's more than reasonable to rationalize that the poster using that pseudonym is either a person with a very weak ego and an unhealthy mono focus on a life and issues that aren't actually connected to his own reality, or is a construct created by a person who feels a need to protect Byrne's ego and reputation.


Close, but no cigar. Honestly, it seems that you have expended far too much 'thought' on a conspiracy theory. That appears unhealthy.

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Now who, I ask, has a greater interest in defending Byrne's ego and reputation than JB himself? While there are large numbers of unbalanced individuals and humorless trolls (all of whom, coincidentally, think that they have delightful senses of humor) out there, it behooves us to at least examine the possibility of the most obvious solution being the answer.


It behooves "us"? Uh oh.

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Therefore, there are three strong probabilities.

1) Palsunstar is an anonymous John Byrne, deliberately dumbing his own posts down in order to obscure his identity.


Ouch. Dumbing down? I'm hurt.

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Originally posted by IvanJim:
2) Palsunstar is an unbalanced individual who over identifies with Byrne to the point where his own life has been lost in the balance.


LOL! Stop it, now! This is painful!

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Originally posted by IvanJim:
3) Palsunstar is the pseudonym of a troll who spends far too much time on the internet and has compartmentalized each of his different attack issues with a different name. He uses palsunstar as the name to attack folks commenting less than positively about Byrne, some other pseudonym to attack McFarland detractors, probably a general use pseudonym to attack other less relevent (to him) issues, and possibly another general use pseudonym when he posts in ways that he thinks are temperate.


Amazing. Is there a three strikes and you're out rule involved?

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Regardless of whether it's one of these three possibilities or some other even more perverse one, it's hard to give substance to any ideas that are posted under this "palsunstar" brand name.


Oh sure. Let's give substance to Internet psychologists with far too much time on their hands. There's a brilliant plan.

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Originally posted by IvanJim:
THAT, and not whether Palsunstar is actually JB, is the true point of this discussion (or at least my part in same).


Applause. Applause. Well done! Brilliant performance.
Now, I wonder if anyone else 'fell' for this claptrap?

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#497188 - 08/16/02 01:27 PM Re: Meltdown on the Byrne Board?
Paul W. Sondersted, Jr. Offline
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Originally posted by JoeRCM:
Interesting. I've been reading JB's musings on his Fan Board for about a year now and while Pal certainly quotes him often enough, the writing style of Pal's posts is distinctly different from JB's. I did like the sly quote of JB that Pal used: "I said it before, and I'll say it again...as a wise man once said, "Never swing at the easy ones.""

JB uses that line all the time...but Pal's quoting him and he even states its a quote....


I'll cop to that. When a line works, use it.

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#497189 - 08/16/02 01:29 PM Re: Meltdown on the Byrne Board?
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Originally posted by Elayne Riggs:


Ah, here's another clue for you all...



I think John's quote is from an early National Lampoon album -- Radio Dinner, John?
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