Yup. Speaking to your online buddies again. No need to continuously seek approval from them. They already hoist you on their fragile shoulders with each and every immature & assinine word you spew here. You're preaching to the converted, but you already know that. That truth won't spoil your fun though, I'm sure.
I don't speak against the negativity to STOP it. I'm not THAT naive. I speak against it because I'm against it. Weird, eh?
And as far as your once again wacky attempts to come to conclusions based on your own overblown psychoanalytical presumptions, therein lies your own failed validations. Still, I do enjoy seeing you continually 'prove' your ignorance, so by all means, keep it up. Continue to seek approval from your online buddies. Some good comes from your wacky behavior.
However, since it is your own delusional misconceptions, innuendos, and immature ramblings, I know not to take it seriously. That won't stop you, as I don't expect it to, but I 'guess' you'll just have to learn to 'live' with it. (What are the odds?)

Now, now, Pumpkin, I already told you that you weren't invited to weigh in on the topic. I know you're upset that you've swayed not a single opinion towards your way of thinking, and I know that you're angry about being batted from pillar to post, but you're still just regurgitating your own nonsensical Lackaknowledge.

You think that I've "converted" folks to my thinking by using the devious under-handed tactic of logically expounding my argument point by point? How dreadfully unfair of me, and how horribly ignorant (IGNORANT!) of people to listen to a logical point of view and combine it with the evidence in front of their eyes to form an opinion. What's more sacriligious is that they dare to disagree with your POV! Horrors!


So again folks, knowing that pally will blow impotent raspberries your way if you dare to give an opinion that doesn't match his own, do you feel that Pumpkin is an actual poster displaying an incredible amount of animus and ignorance or is he a poorly enabled construct designed as a joke intended to be played upon the posting public?

Delusional as ever, I see.



"Converted"? Not one iota. If you had the capability of converting anyone to your 'logical 'POV, then you would have done so before now. No, like I mentioned elsewhere, you preach to the converted because that is your safety net, so to speak. You already have your loyal online anti-Byrne fanatics to comfort you and to reassure you.
Me, I speak ONLY for myself, unlike you with your pathetic attempts to bring in your fellow fanatics to back you up. It's very obvious that you need all the help you can get, so keep digging.
And disagreeing with a POV is not a problem. When that POV is filled with asinine, immature, and derogatory behavior, then I take umbrage.
The fact that you, and those of like 'mind' have a problem with THAT is the true horror.



Or is he someone who dislikes the immature, asinine, and paranoid behavior from those who apparently have nothing better to do with their lives then waste time dwelling on impossible-to-prove theories and improbabilities?
Is he someone who is against all forms of anti-social behavior, and feels so strongly about standing up against such behavior that he is willing to put up with the afformentioned immature, asinine, and paranoid behavior?
Is he someone who in truth could quite possibly be the type of person who is forthright and honest in his stand against the afformentioned immature, asinine, and paranoid behavior?
Can it be that someone is actually willing to speak out against adversarial and seemingly hate-filled opinions, especially when those opinions are nothing more than an attempt to degrade, defame, and denigrate someone?
Everyone should just cower before the 'might' of the very loud and the overconfident anti-Byrne fan club!
Dog help us all!

Here's my theory on PAL, feel free to diagree...

PAL isn't a bad guy or is mental in any real way.I think this PAL persona of his is simply a way of doing something to feel better about himself...a hero of some sort. He probably feels he's doing some actual good by going from message board to message board fighting 'evil" (anti-Byrne posters). Now you'll notice that in PAL's mind a person can't simply not like Byrne or disagree with him to PAL they're a Anti-Byrne fanatic. Well, for PAL the hero/defender to be able to able to keep up the "good fight" he needs "villians". If these "villians" (anti-Byrnes) don't exist PAL has no purpose.

It's kinda like a writer once said about Batman; In Gotham City because of the enviornment Batman's a hero/defender, however put Batman in a small town in Ohio and he becomes a nut in a Bat suit. PAL has got to keep Gotham (message boards) populated with "villians" to battle.

In keeping with the "hero" angle, what's happening here reminds me of a issue of Spider-man that Peter David wrote. Peter had Spider-Man in a little neigborhood walking down the street. There wher no buildings to swing from, no villians to fight, no action whatso ever. Without any of those elements surrounding him Spider-Man not only looked goofy but felt so too. That's kinda similar to what's happening here. PAL's very uncomforable with us seeing (or trying to see) PAL "ordinary guy" which is why he keeps bringing up Byrne and anti-Byrne posters (villians) even though the topic of Byrne himself has long died out.

Is PAL a "put on"? No, I'm afraid not. For a while I thought that perhaps the PAL persona was just something he slipped into on occasion. But after seeing him not being able to post for very long without refering to Byrne in some way or another I'm guessing this is all there is to PAL. I read the response PAL made to my last post. He said something to the efect of "IF it were you would you not try to defend yourself?". Yes, I suppose I would, but has PAL really done anything to defend himself? Is throwing insults around really any way to defend yourself?
Like I mentioned before, I keep peeking in here in the hopes of seeing if PAL's going to give any insight on what drives him or to show that he's more than the one -dimensional construct I see him to be. Alas, from what I see here he's even more one dimensional than I ever dared thought.

Now let me just say I'm all for a person doing what they enjoy. PAL may be a great guy for all I know. He's right that I/we know nothing about him but he doesn't seem to realize that what little he's shown us doesn't paint a pretty picture. But he doesn't owe me/us anymore than he wants to show or share. That's his choice. He seems like a fairly intelligent guy and he should be allowed to have his fun on-line without trying to justify himself if he chooses not to. Besides at this point I feel like I'm just picking on him.

So keep up the good fight PAL! I may not understand ya but what the hell, I don't undersdtand a lot of people.

Nice theory. Well put. Lots of valid points, to be sure. Also, lots of inconsistencies. One thing about theories that I'm SURE you're aware of, is that they are just that...theories. So don't presume that 100% of your theory is correct.
Still, you hit the nail on the head in many ways.
I admit that I get overzealous, but I TRY to maintain a certain amount of decorum and maturity when dealing with derogatory individuals. It doesn't always work out that way, of course, but my conscience is clear.
The wackiness usually ensues when others turn it around away from the subject at hand and bring about their hypothesis, innuendoes, and theories, about the poster at hand (in this case, me). An utter waste of time and effort (and in a certain case, a seeming obsession).
Anyway, thanks for the calm, cool, & collected post. Nice change of pace.

And so, all parties having reached substantial agreement as noted in the post above, this lengthy thread can reasonably wend it's way down the ladder of new posts into eventual oblivion. See y'all on the next thread.


Kumbaya!

Don't they have a Trolls Anonymous? You need help!

Well, be as it may...I still find you very annoying and your statement here shows you still don't get it or are unable to see yourself (the PAL persona) in really objective way.

Although I stopped reading most of your postings defending JB a while back, the ones I remember almost always have the same pattern to them. Someone says something you see as "negative" and you start badgering them for some sort of "proof" to the negative statement. You rarely ever just end it there, you must throw in insults telling the poster or insinuating they're a "troll", that they're part of this ridiculous "anti-Byrne" movement that you have in your head, that they that they take some sort of great delight in spewing "negativity" across the net, or they have some sort of "agenda" going on that somehow you're able to recognize.

I'm sorry, but who wants to hear all that crap for simply voicing an opinion? It's not even fun or even mildly interesting to debate with you because besides all the name calling, your defending is almost always so incredible flimsy. Most of your defense merely consists of "John says diiferently...", "I'd call that hearsay...", "being negative is bad..." "you obviously have an agenda..." "I feel so sorry for you..." or "he's human too...". When a poster gives you "proof" of something you either ignore it or dismiss it.
Geee, I'd think since you feel the need to defend the guy you'd bring something alittle more substanial to the debate, but you rarely do. Debating with you gets tiresome and annoying fairly easily. I'll bet most people (me included) simply tend to just ignore you after a while.

So you not expecting others to comment on or have theories about you after you so regularly display what can only be seen as bizzare behavior shows that really have no sense of how over the top and one dimensional you show yourself to be. "Presumtions"? "Theories"? "Don't know you"? For the evidence you repeatly show I don't see how anyone could not come to such conclusions.

The final kicker that just adds to what I see as the overall creepiness of your persona is your lack of humor you display. Yeah you make the occassional joke but it's mostly in the form of a putdown to someone or what I see as a creepy attempt to be "witty". All this posting and it's not really fun is it? I'll bet you derive all your fun from putting people "in their place" (which from what I see you rarely do) don't you?

Here's a thought...If you insist on "fighting the good fight" maybe you should try to do so with out unloading your full arsenal of insults, putdowns, and accusations on people who simply have a different opinion than yours. Since you don't seem too fond at having any of that thrown at you one would think that perhaps others don't like it either and respond in kind. Maybe they aren't people with "agendas", maybe they're simply people who don't share your wacky views. If you truly can't see that maybe you need to talk to someone. Seriously.

Good luck to you.

I think that "John Byrne" has become the new "Don Heck."