Maybe that's what you're saying now, Scott, but if you don't want people responding to your bull about Americans having forgotten about 9/11, about how our emotional ability to criticize the president as something that needs to be gotten away from, about how you're sick of us being concerned about things like civil liberties and going to war against a nation that has not attacked us, then don't post those things.
Scott, you are one who should remove yourself from general discourse, since it's clear you feel free to invent things that are convenient to defending yourself whether they make sense or not. I'm quite able to separate the aftermath from the event... and feel that we should not be overlooking the current political situation to try to recapture the feelings of anguish and despair that our country was facing a year ago. I've seen no sign that any of us have lost track of what happened then. Again, if you want to invent stances for me, that's your situation. So far in this discussion, I've called no one a fascist (said a condition was "near-fascist", yes; said someone was a fascist, no.)
Gee Scott, you've been refering to my posts (or your inventions about my posts) as "meaningless", "knee-jerk", "absurd", "paranoia" while criticizing the Amercian people for engaging in "hand-wringing" for their being vocal about the vital issues of the day. Nooooo, you're not taking anyone to task there....
And I should take orders from you because...?

Well said.

Nat's been trying repeatedly to make the same point using far more alarmist language, throwing around the word "fascism" like he was collecting royalties each time it was used, putting himself not far beyond the level of the guy who compared Bush to the Emperor, in my book. I'm certainly not belittling his opinions, I'm poking fun at the fact that he feels he needs to state them over and over again, and in language that would embarass even a college student at the latest fashionable political rally.

I'm certainly not saying that ALL the TV coverage is dignified and appropriate--I'm sure most of it isn't, though I've seen one or two things that I thought were appropriately reflective and well-done (needless to say, they didn't involve the likes of Matt Lauer). All I've said is: "How can anyone be surprised that a lot of the media this week is going to focused on 9/11 memorials? What else would you expect?" Everything else that Nat's argued about, even coming dangerously close to accusing me of being part of the "fascist" mentality despite knowing nothing about me other than the fact that I've watched a little TV this week, is stuff that he made up in order to be able to argue about it. And like I've said, I'm as bored of the politicizing of 9/11 as you guys are of the media coverage.

Nat, I'll send you a $100 bill if you can find a single instance of me suggesting any one of those things. WHO'S making stuff up, exactly?

I don't think you're aware of the increasingly-hostile tone of your posts. As I said above, I'm not knocking you having an opinion, or even the opinion itself, just the unfortunate language that you've chosen to wrap around it. Try taking a page from Elayne's book and stating your arguments in a rational, clear voice rather then the standard "angry Internet poster" style. I don't mind a lively discussion, but I won't get involved in one of these hopelessly nerdy flame wars where eventually we start making fun of each others' grammar.

Pat's correct here; the history of journalism -- especially American journalism -- is a history of partisanship and advocacy. Over the years, various ethics and standards have evolved and been observed or ignored, but the media have always been about more than just disseminating information.

You don't like me, do you?

:rolleyes:

I have only counted three Nat posts(in this thread) which the word fascism or some semblance of the word is in.

This could be a pattern, but not even close to the spectacular use of the word 'incoherent' by Kim Thompson.

My decision is that Nat does not get royalities.

Uh, I'm not, unless America turns into a police state.

Get a clue. :rolleyes:

I knew someone who died in the Pentagon. He wasn't my closest buddy on Earth, but I had worked with him in the past and still saw him now and then. I liked him and I miss him.

But life goes on.

Kim hasn't posted in this thread and isn't a registered member of Comicon any more -- there seems to be no point in dragging him into it.

Despite your irrational love for that latest Star Wars flick, and your bizarre notion that it's some kind of mirror of American politics, I think you're just peachy.