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#500825 - 10/07/02 06:08 PM Re: What, no weeping for the WEF?
ericomaraltice Offline
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Originally posted by Shoegaze99:


Classy.


Well, it isn't classy but anyone familiar with my posting style knows that classiness is not something I put a premium on when it comes to discussing comic books on the internet. The problem was that only Ellis and his favorites were ever entitled to offer something like "tough shit" in response to criticism. Anyone else who did something like that was gagged and/or booted, then they were subject to abuse from anyone who wanted to pile on.
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#500826 - 10/07/02 06:14 PM Re: What, no weeping for the WEF?
ericomaraltice Offline
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Originally posted by Tom Spurgeon:
You can be a community and a cult of personality. That's how we got Utah.


It may be possible, but my point was that it wasn't true in the case of the WEF. There were a few attempts to paint it as a place where the people had grown to respect and care for one another, but that was all a sham - a public relations move to counter the popular perception a the WEF as a haven for angry, unsuccessful eurotrash and the Americans who emulated them.
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#500827 - 10/07/02 08:29 PM Re: What, no weeping for the WEF?
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Didn't Luke Cage and his pal D.W. run into a community like that on a bus trip once?

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#500828 - 10/07/02 08:54 PM Re: What, no weeping for the WEF?
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Posted by madget

Link?

I don`t have the link right now, and i don`t plan on trying to find it back. If you want to dig, good for you. Maybe somebody has the link and knows which month(in August perhaps?) it took place? Anyway, good luck in your searchs. It`s histerical.
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#500829 - 10/07/02 10:25 PM Re: What, no weeping for the WEF?
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The biggest influence on Transmetropolitan was Bug JacK Barron by Norman Spinrad.

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#500830 - 10/07/02 10:56 PM Re: What, no weeping for the WEF?
Dirk Deppey Offline
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Originally posted by robmilan:
The biggest influence on Transmetropolitan was Bug JacK Barron by Norman Spinrad.

Rob Wright


Was that where Ellis got the bowel disruptor? I read the book years ago, and ever since I first read Transmetropolitan I've been wracking my brain trying to remember where I first heard the concept -- I know it wasn't original to Ellis. My best guess so far has been Jeter's Dr. Adder, or maybe Those Annoying Post Brothers.
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#500831 - 10/08/02 01:40 AM Re: What, no weeping for the WEF?
Alan David Doane Offline
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Originally posted by Dean R Milburn:
I read several issues of Transmetropolitan, and found it heavy handed and yes, a rip off of Dr. Thompson...


When Comic Book Galaxy posted an article pointing this out -- it's at http://www.comicbookgalaxy.com/vox/reviews_archive_092600.html if you're interested -- Ellis's defenders rose up to point out that Thompson was referenced in the text piece in the first issue. Interesting that he's NOT mentioned in the first trade paperback (or any thereafter), which even Ellis admits is where most people who've read the story in the first issue of Transmet have read it. I believe Ellis recently said they've sold twice as many of the first trade now as they did the actual comic. About time somebody at least re-inserted that text piece into the trades, or more rightly put an acknowledgement into every single Spider Jerusalem appearance. And action figure. Oh, and, sent the guy a check.

All in the interests of making a better world. Or at least a fairer one.

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#500832 - 10/08/02 08:22 AM Re: What, no weeping for the WEF?
Brent Grenier Offline
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...or more rightly put an acknowledgement into every single Spider Jerusalem appearance. And action figure. Oh, and, sent the guy a check.


Hey, while we're at it, let's have all editorial cartoonists send GW a chek for using his image and style! And, hey, Orson Welles really should have given that William Randolph Hearst a check. Oh, and Keourac really needed to give money to all the people he ripped off in On the Road.

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#500833 - 10/08/02 08:27 AM Re: What, no weeping for the WEF?
Alan David Doane Offline
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Originally posted by Brent Grenier:


Hey, while we're at it, let's have all editorial cartoonists send GW a chek for using his image and style! And, hey, Orson Welles really should have given that William Randolph Hearst a check. Oh, and Keourac really needed to give money to all the people he ripped off in On the Road.


If Ellis had been making a one-time editorial comment on Thompson and not ripping him off en masse, I'd agree.

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#500834 - 10/08/02 10:28 AM Re: What, no weeping for the WEF?
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