Chris,

Do you remember if you could see any part of the adult comics inside the adult section of the old store?

Well, they may be, Pat, but the example you give remains a poor one. Poor because it's argument by analogy, and poor because it's argument by false analogy.

The laws covering cigarette sales are clear-cut specific, and you offer no specific knowledge to support your implication of wide-ranging violation.

It's not that amazing. It's pretty much standard operating procedure. And hey, how about that intellectual Copernius and that heliocentric theory of his? Boy, that was sure embraced by the authorities.

This has nothing to do with intellectuals and nothing to do with threats to children. It has to do with political maneuvering, twelve suckers, and the concept that comics are solely for kids. No one's arguing conspiracy. All you need is a couple of aggressive politicos and the suckers fall into place.

PAD

Hoof. Someone needs a time out. But let's try this in order.



As a fun game, I'd like to try and find where the Hell you got this from what I said. The only thing that was even remotely in my post was the phrase "close-minded." And yes. Texas has a long history of jury trials with hideously close-minded juries delivering biased verdicts. If you don't believe me, take a look at our illustrious president's track record of gubernatorial execution approvals.
A jury that ignores facts and goes in with preconceived notions has... wait for it... closed their minds.



So... "because appeals don't often win, I must assume there is no case for an appeal."

Okay then.

Now at this point I've snipped a lot of your post because you're just spouting off insults. It's not worth responding to.

The only thing I will say about that part of your post. It's amazing to me that you've completely ignored everything else I said in my post to jump on two words. If you have any thoughts on the rest of my statements, I'd appreciate hearing them.



You do realize here that you're saying, "Hey, I'm not going to go to a lot of 'sources' and 'factual accounts' for what happened. I'm just going to have my own opinion, damn it."
It is possible to weed out bias and just look at facts, you know. For instance, you continually blow off the DA's comments because they were in a CBLDF press release. Does that mean the CBLDF made them up? Or did the DA actually say those things.



You said it. Not me.

Again. I'm saying that you're wrong, not that the possibility of you being right never existed. If you read past the two words "close-minded" you would probably have seen why I said it.



Finally, we agree on something.

All hail Mvoid. His is always right and never wrong. He is God.

Flying pig, what decade are you living in? Don't you know that you have the same type of mentality the people who went after the comic book industry in the 1950s for "corrupting" children, and they nearly destroyed the industry itself (Frank Miller has a theory that the cutesy Archie Comics may have had a hand in influencing the exorcism of crime and horror comic books)?

"Comic books should be for kids", they said.

BUT WHY THE FUCK SHOULD THEY BE?! HAS ANYONE ANSWERED THAT?


How come other countries with an infrastructure can see the broadening spectrum of creativity and imagination of comic books and we, in the USA, a supposed democracy, can't?
Remember Mike Diana, that poor soul?

The Cbldf Casefiles section

The whole case involving Castillo is nothing more than a damn witchhunt. Comic books should be able to approach every subject, including sex, and the ones who make, sell and buy them shouldn't be prosecuted in the first place.

BTW, fp, go to Dallas Observer Webpage to get more info on the case.

Poor mike diana! what bullshit! If only bob dylan had made a hit song about the shit he had to deal with...maybe then some people would have noticed america's soul being sold under their noses and this could have been stopped.

I wonder what the assfuck judges who convicted diana would say if they found a copy of Suehiro Maruo's Ultra Gash Inferno.

I really don't think that's true. Americans (and people in general) have traditionally shown a readiness, even an eagerness, to give up rights when others exercise them in a way that they find displeasing or unpleasant. I'm very nearly a First Amendment absolutist, but I found it very hard to work up a lot of outrage about the Mark Diana case*. His works are so deliberately transgressive that it takes real work to look past them and realize how nuts his punishment was.

*Though I did contribute to his defense fund.

Scout,

Forgive me for expressing my opinion. I know that I'm not as "opened minded" as you are. How stupid of my for me to think that such an "open minded" person would concider other people points of view.

May I be beat with wet paper towels for thinking that porn shouldn't be allowed to be displayed for all to see.

May I have to crawl through a mile of broken glass because I don't believe that we should have the same "standards" as other countries. Shame on me for thinking the cutting off of the left hand for stealing or band public entertainment in Saudi Araba shouldn't be done here in the United States. Shame on me for not thinking it is o.k. to let 35 year old men marry thier 13 year old cousins like in Turkey.

May I burn in hell for thinking on my own, looking up information, wanting to see transcripts from a trial, reading stories from the retailers point of view as well as the DA or investigating officer beyond those of what the "open minded" people want me to see to decide if the conviction of Jesus was correct or not. I should only look at the things that you tell me to look at because you are such an "open minded" person.

You truly are a demi-god because Mvoid is God. All hail Mvoid.

And you're doing these things...when?

PAD