He asked you to explain why you think the way you do. He also offered counter arguments to your opinion. You don't have to address the counter arguments, or explain you position if you don't want to. But don't expect him to consider your opinion if you don't.

If I may quote him, in fact,



You still haven't. Instead, you rambled about displaying porn out in the open and cutting off peoples' hands.

Again, you don't have to defend your opinions. But don't get all pissy with us for disagreeing with you if you won't.



I would love it if you could find anything resembling this in his post. Not once did he suggest displaying porn out in the open.

If I'm wrong, please, hit the quote button.



Again. Rather than address the points he did bring up, you're inventing your own and then arguing those.



I love how when responding to his post, you use quote marks around a phrase he didn't use.



Cool, I've got a demi-god now.

It's interesting that Pat and flying pig are spending so much energy on the issue of how kids were prevented from viewing the adults-only comics. As PAD says, that was never the problem. No one has presented evidence that kids actually were viewing the adults-only comics. The prosecution occurred because adults were doing it.

This is not an issue of protecting children. This comic store was not a topless bar; that analogy is an absurd exaggeration. The reason Jesus was arrested was because he sold an adult comic to an adult. Because the jury ignored the Miller test, there was never even any proof that the comic was obscene.

The essence of this case is: Because some parent was upset at the price of Pokemon cards, and because some opportunistic politician wanted to look tough on smut, an adult was arrested for selling an non-obscene adult comic to another adult. This is self-evidently outrageous.

Now you're just trolling.

Well, hear him out on that point. I think there's a case to be made.

What? Pat is a majority unto himself....

Hi,

Hmmm, Maybe, but I bet you I weigh more then him.

Bill Lange

Yeah, maybe, but look at it from the Troll's point of view: "The Whole World is trolling me!"

I think maybe there should be an emoticon for "yeah, sure, I hear ya, and that's a great point, but here's my take on it.."

Heh.

(Begin SNIP here) Oh...did you say you wanted my opinion? (End SNIP here)

Well, if retailers couldn't sell obscenity (or porn), then CEREBUS might be hard to find. (And internet servers would be even more crippled, but I digress.)

On the other hand, in Texas, you don't mess with the kids. Or politicians, who could've just as easily arrested and sentenced Mr. Jesus for jaywalking.

So many issues here...should CBLDF be involved? Oh well, here's the running summary...

Talon's Tote Board

Retailers allowed to sell porn? YES
Retailers allowed to display porn? NO
Comic shops allowed to exist in school zone? YES
Porn shops allowed to exist in school zone? NO
Comic shops in school zone selling porn to public? NO
Comic shops in school zone selling brown bagged subscriber porn? YES
High-priced Pokémon cards? NO
CBLDF involved here? YES (*only* to make sure that the 1st amendment rights of Mr. Jesus have not been abused, but not to change Texas obscenity laws)
Two rational sides to this debate? YES
Only one common sense side vs Pat and fp? NO

Thank you, and remember to keep the brown wrapper on until you get home!

I actually agree with this. And I think Pat has a germ of a point too. But neither has anything to do with this case.

Pig--What we think comics shops should do has nothing to do with what they have a right to do.

Pat--Retailers should be aware of the tone of their community, and it appears that this one was.

Mvoid,

Scout compaired other countries standard in comic books to the United States. So I just expanded it to other standard to an extreme of using other countries standard for the United States. That last time I looked the US was a soverign state. But don't ask the conspericy people about that and the UN.

When did I say that comic books corrupted children?

If I'm "closed minded" that makes you what?

Sir Drake,

What was Jesus convicted of, again? Was it a. selling an adult comic book to an adult. b. because of a Pokeman cards. c. displaying the book. I'll give you a few minutes to think on that. tick... tick... tick... For those of you playing at home the answer is c. tick... tick... tick... Times up. Sir Drake, the answer is c. displaying the book.

I know that the old store had a room where the adult books were. Could comics inside that room be seen from outside? Yes or no. Real simple. Real easy question. Straight forward. If you could see comic books in that room, did the display have nudity? Yes or no. Real simple. Real easy question. Straight forward. If the answer is no to EITHER of those question then Jesus got wrongly convicted. If the answer is yes to both then Jesus was correctly convicted. Real simple. Real easy. Straight forward.

By the way. Mvoid is God. All hail. Mvoid.

He talked about certain countries' attitudes toward comics. You talked about completely different countries' legal standards on irrelevant matters. In the process, you completely ducked the question he asked you.

You've ducked quite a few questions since this began.



Rrrright.

You'll have to explain that one to me. Frankly it's over my head.



You didn't. Nor was it what he was addressing. You said that comic books were predominantly for children, and that's what he took you to task over.



Here comes the really funny part. I haven't called you close-minded. I called the jury that. You took it personally. And you've devoted God knows how much time to defending yourself against an accusation that was never made.

As for me, I've done my best to address every single point you've made, rather than ignore them and continue to repeat my initial opinion ad nauseum.

If you want to do me the same courtesy, I'd appreciate that. If you want to continue on repeating yourself while ignoring arguments and tossing insults, I'm sure you can think of your own word for the act.



And by the looks of things, you should probably come up with one soon.