Jesus Christ, who can even read this shit?

Originally posted by Macca:
let's recap:

Bush and his henchmen (or is it the otherway around?) vow to find Osama and destroy the group responsible for 9/11

next thing you know, they are failing miserably at that task and starting to hear the grumblings among voters

How did the voters express their discontent? By voting Democrat last November?

Then . . . Enron and the like come along and Bush and his henchmen are about to get roasted for their connections and profits thereto and thereform

What about the contributions made to the Democrats?

so the next thing you know . . . . WE NEED TO ATTACK IRAQ BECAUSE SADDAM IS BAD

And you don't think Saddam is bad?

nothing had changed -- Saddam was doing the same old crap and there was no explanation for this sudden urgency. In fact, tho Bush tried to connect Saddam to 9/11 and bin Laden but was forced to admit that they had could find no conection

Oh, I see, Saddam must be a swell guy after all. Let's let him stay in power.

the only thing that had changed was that Bush needed to direct the U.S public and press away from Enron, the failure to find Osama bin laden etc. and this is what he chose

He must be a masterful manipulator of events. I don't know why some of you seem to think he's so dumb if he can pull that off.

and it's working beautifully

See?

so don't go on about how Bush is stupid -- he's playing the public like a violin (albeit I'm sure with considerable assistance from his "backers")

I'm embarressed by my countrymen with regards to this issue -- Bush's ploy has been SO obvious all along and no one seems to care whatsoever

How many Hollywood stars have been lining up to have their pictures taken with peace protesters? How many peace protesters have there been? How many news articles about 'someone or other doesn't agree with the U.S.?

(Hint: The answers are: Lots, lots and lots)

so the issue to me isn't whether Saddam needs to be taken out (or why we are seemingly unconcerned with all of the others who are just as bad if not worse)

Name five of them. And do you support military action against those worse than Saddam?

(or what we've done to KEEP such peolpe in power when it serves our own needs) but why no one seems to care that young poeple are being sent of to die,

Old people must serve as front-line soldiers!! That's what we need!

civilans killed, American families spearated, etc. all for a little shell-game PR to benift the current administration

Yeah, the Iraqi people would probably hate to be rid of Saddam.

that Bush is trying this crap is bad enough; our apathy and willingness to buy into this crap is shameful

P.S.

you'll notice I didn't mention Bush needing to divert attention from his adminstration's banning of the Bill of Rights in the name of fighting for the American Way (kinda like burning all your money so no one can steal it -- talk about winning Osama's battles for him) theer's been no need to divert attention from these ongoing and shameful acts becasue no one seems to give a shit about them

:rolleyes:

But how else do you take Saddam out, other than conventional war tactics? War doesn't really change much; an unfortunate result is that people die.

And, so much is said about the terrible act of sending our young people off to "die," which, I agree, is not a cheery prospect. Yet, I can't help but contrast this with the mindset of those who are actually going; that they are being sent to "serve;" to serve a nation, and protect a way of life. It's ironic, really. We criticize their having to go, and they go willingly to protect our right to do so.

UPDATE:

CNN/TIME POLL:

Bush Approval rating: 53%

Country is in 'Deep Serious Trouble": 56%

The Economy will get better in the next 12 months: 27%

Bush's handling of the economy: 51%

Bush's Handling of Foreign Policy: 50%

Wow. I have a better approval rating, and I'm an asshole!

Yeah, Damn straight! 'cause just because we gave him stuff, didn't mean he had to use the stuff for whatever bad things he did with the stuff. But now, oh just you wait MadAss (Sadam spelled backwards), cause now we're gonna use the stuff to stuff you!

For over a decade,Iraq has failed to comply with the Gulf War cease fire agreement by destroying its weapons of mass destruction. What are our options? Do nothing and allow Saddam to obtain nukes or arm terrorists with chemical weapons? It seems to me Bush has taken a very reasonable approach. With UN and congressional support he has given Iraq a final chance to comply FULLY or face military consequences. It is clear Saddam has decided to delay, lie,and not comply. Under such circumstances a liberation of the people of Iraq is almost inevitable.

As far as those people that think calling Bush dumb is some type of substitute for logical debate I suggest you look up the phrase "ad hominem attack.

I just wonder how many of those in favor of military action against Iraq are going to get out there and do some fighting for us?

It's easy to favor intensive military action when you can just watch the results of your bid while sprawled out on your couch sucking down a soda.


K

Madget,
Are you really trying to say that only those in the military ready to fight should be allowed to have the opinion that war with Iraq is justified?

Does your argument go the other way too with "its easy to bitch and moan against war when you are sitting on a couch drinking a soda"? Maybe if you were living in Iraq under the tyranny of Saddam you might have a different view. You might welcome the overthrow of a madman who has ravaged his country with war, starvation, oppresion, and even the use of chemical warfare.

Hola Twice Luva's



Hindsight is "SUCH" a wonderful thing isn't
it Doc.

sorry, messed up the post