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#506828 - 01/25/03 12:16 PM Re: "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, and I'll bomb you"
Mark Allen Offline

Registered: 10/12/01
Posts: 1677
Loc: Northwestern Oklahoma
Originally posted by ChrisW:
If I'm talking about the same 2 countries you are, that would be France and Germany.

Well, I'm not sure of BOTH countries, but I know one was Russia, and that the reporter said they were JOINING France in their position to wait. France has had this opinion for at least several days, now.
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#506829 - 01/25/03 01:18 PM Re: "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, and I'll bomb you"
gene phillips Offline

Registered: 09/30/99
Posts: 5910
Loc: Houston, TX
Looked up some dates:

Iraq invaded Kuwait August '90.

America and other allies took first definite action in January '91.

Last action in March '91.

My personal recollection is that though Bush's approval rating was high after the swift conclusion of the Gulf War, it wasn't enough to offset public discontent over economic woes. When taxes went up Bush was perceived as having lied with the famous "Read my lips; no new taxes" speech and that hurt him far more than the Gulf War helped him. Again, just a personal recollection of how things shook out.

So there's no guarantee that if Dubya prosecuted a swift and decisive war with Iraq right now, that public opinion would see him safely through the next year's election. From this amateur's perspective a war might actually do him more good if it occured closer to the election. But there could be any number of reasons, the "winter window" I mentioned not even being one of the best. Like maybe he's leery of having Congress rescind the power to attack Iraq (not bloody likely, but a possibility) and wants to get it done now, while he has the power. Or maybe he's trying to please his corporate masters so they'll fork over big for the campaign. Quien sabe?

#506830 - 01/25/03 02:48 PM Re: "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, and I'll bomb you"
ChrisW Offline

Registered: 11/25/00
Posts: 10034
Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska USA
Don't forget the value in having Saddam (and other mid-east despots) quake in anticipation. The other mid-east despots are pretty much all telling him to knuckle under by now.

That is, unless they think they can get together and steamroll over Israel again like they've done so many times before. In that case, watch out. wink
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#506831 - 01/25/03 11:25 PM Re: "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, and I'll bomb you"
Jughead Jones Offline

Registered: 06/26/02
Posts: 814
Loc: Riverdale USA
I'm hoping all the pressure will get to Hussein and we can avoid war altogether... I'm not too hopeful, though. I think he's more likely to kill himself and try to take his whole country with him.

I'd really like to avoid war if at all possible, though.

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