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#512247 - 04/23/03 11:56 AM Re: US Marines and IRAQI Citizens work together...Michael Moore has Egg on His Face
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Originally posted by Cisco Bunny:


What you are proposing would create a government even more hostile than Saddam.


And you base this on...? There is no indication that the majority of American military LEAVING Iraq and letting them set up their own government would result in the hostility you speak of (hope for?). On the contrary, it seems to be exactly what they WANT, as you have pointed out with the demonstration stories.
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#512248 - 04/23/03 12:01 PM Re: US Marines and IRAQI Citizens work together...Michael Moore has Egg on His Face
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Originally posted by Talon T M:
You forgot to include the links to the 'news' from the Iraq Ministry of Truth.


How does msn.com strike you for an accurate news source? Because they're reporting the same thing .

So I'm wondering... if 150 Iraqis tearing down a statue puts egg on Michael Moore's face, what does a million Iraqis telling us to get the hell out of Iraq do?

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#512249 - 04/23/03 12:18 PM Re: US Marines and IRAQI Citizens work together...Michael Moore has Egg on His Face
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Get 'em Mvoid! Get'em!

Heh.

Actually the Shiites constitute 60 percent of Iraq's 25 million population, so that's more like 15 million who are telling us to get the hell out.

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#512250 - 04/23/03 12:23 PM Re: US Marines and IRAQI Citizens work together...Michael Moore has Egg on His Face
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Oh yeah. CNN has a report that according to the British Defense Minister, Saddam is still alive and in Iraq

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#512251 - 04/23/03 12:42 PM Re: US Marines and IRAQI Citizens work together...Michael Moore has Egg on His Face
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IRAQIS need to be 100% in charge of setting up a government for Iraqis.


But they have absolutely no experience in doing so. The pre-Saddam government was imposed upon them by the British; the Saddam regime by coup d'etat.

And will you be so sanguine about this if the government they set up is a rabidly anti-American Islamic republic in which "infidels" and women are violently oppressed?
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#512252 - 04/23/03 01:45 PM Re: US Marines and IRAQI Citizens work together...Michael Moore has Egg on His Face
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Originally posted by Pat ONeill:

And will you be so sanguine about this if the government they set up is a rabidly anti-American Islamic republic in which "infidels" and women are violently oppressed?


Nope, they'll blame that one on us, too.

Just get used to it. Everything bad in the world is our fault. Maybe I should change the location in my profile to "United States of Eeeeeeevil."
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#512253 - 04/23/03 02:35 PM Re: US Marines and IRAQI Citizens work together...Michael Moore has Egg on His Face
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Originally posted by Son of Thunder:


Nope, they'll blame that one on us, too.

Just get used to it. Everything bad in the world is our fault. Maybe I should change the location in my profile to "United States of Eeeeeeevil."


Well, Son of Thunder, if that DID happen, we WOULD be at fault and deserve the blame... we were, after all, the people who went in there and overthrew their secular government... if they go rabidly anti-American Islamist, it WILL be our fault.

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#512254 - 04/23/03 03:24 PM Re: US Marines and IRAQI Citizens work together...Michael Moore has Egg on His Face
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In addition to Cisco Bunny's comments, there's this:

Dubya and his neo-con buddies want the US to be the controlling power in the world; they want this country to be not only the model for every other nation but the place all other nations look to for leadership.

One of the marks of true leadership is that old saw that sat on Harry Truman's desk: "The buck stops here."

You want leadership you have to accept responsibility. So if Dubya's view of the world comes to fruition the US would be responsible for everything that happens.
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#512255 - 04/23/03 11:23 PM Re: US Marines and IRAQI Citizens work together...Michael Moore has Egg on His Face
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Originally posted by Dan Carroll:


How does msn.com strike you for an accurate news source?


Uh-oh, here comes Mvoid's Mocking Laughter again.

I'm sorry, you're serious?

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So I'm wondering... if 150 Iraqis tearing down a statue puts egg on Michael Moore's face, what does a million Iraqis telling us to get the hell out of Iraq do?


Have you ever read the book of Exodus? There are some amazing parallels in there to what is going on today with the freed people of Iraq. It's quite understandable that they want to do the rest on their own, although it just as easily could be a huge mistake for them. It's their country, as long as they stay away from WMD's and terrorist threats to us, I have no problem with that. But if they get out of line...WHAM.
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#512256 - 04/24/03 01:12 AM Re: US Marines and IRAQI Citizens work together...Michael Moore has Egg on His Face
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Originally posted by Talon T M:
Have you ever read the book of Exodus?


Yup. Since you're trying to sidestep the question, can I assume an actual answer won't be forthcoming?

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