Are those numbers derived from questions designed to achieve a certain agenda? Why don't you think 60% (or whatever number gets plugged in) of the people realized that 9/11 was caused by terrorists, the Iraqi regime was an instrument of terror, and that's enough similarity for people who actually think this stuff is bad and should be taken care of?

Peace demonstrations good (if irrelevant to the specific circumstances), cutting out people's tongues OR blowing up babies in the marketplace BAD.

Some people chose not to listen that well.
Bush's agenda hasn't been that much of a secret. The anti-Bush/America crowd has been trying to pick nits.

From Bush's very public words:
Notice the words in bold. Aside from the Ansar-e-Islam terror base that was steeped in terror making items that may or may not have been allowed or able to be put under control by the Iraqi govt., as evidenced now that Iraq definitely desired to sponsor anti-American terror groups outside of Iraq. (I'll suggest that if the US troops found that traces of that document I referenced upthread some months back, we in the public would not have seen that as "proof" but the US govt. would have. It's the kind of document that would have been deemed "FAKE!" if it was presented to the UN, and it turns out it was found not by the US forces, and it was found in Baghdad. Similar documents/intercepts may have pointed in a similar direction. Iron clad proof? Not as yet.
Will there be? Dunno.

Secret Bush agenda (not stated here, but on the pundit circles it's been suggested) - no, as evidenced by the Bush speeches quoted above.

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Damn, as much as I've always been a critic of Bush, it doesn't look that way here, does it?

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Dennis Miller is an interesting cat. Before his failed stint on Monday Night Football, he was known as one of the most boring comics around, that only a selection of weirdoes enjoyed. His comedy was just so weird, and effate. It's kind of like that joke Prof. Frink told on "The Simpsons," when he was talking about "the Dennis Miller Theorum," that demonstrated how some things are only understood by 1 out of every 100 people.

THEN came the dabacle on Monday Night Football, where Miller was roundly ridiculed and criticized by EVERYONE. He became national joke with the elitist parallels he would draw in his color commentary, comparing a play to the Battle of Hastings, or some such garbage.

Since MNF, Miller has become a wounded and insecure man. He has been horrified by the ridicule he took at the hands of middle America, who rightly could not understand his elitest humor. Now, Miller is trying to compensate by becoming the Rush Limbaugh of comedians. Trying to impress the same middle American football fans who shunned and humiliated him a year ago.

The result is a comedian who has stopped telling jokes. His most recent HBO special, "The Raw Feed," was a ridiculous example of a comedian who had lost it. There were no jokes, just a Right-Wing rant about what a deep thinking intellectual Bush is, and how people who are against the war are murderers and un-American. At least Bill Maher and Michael Moore attempt to bury some jokes within the political commentary.

In 20 years, people will talk about Dennis Miller in the same tones they speak of Chevy Chase's crack-up after the failure of his late-night show.

Those "numbers" come from a Gallup poll that showed that 60% of Americans believe the 9/11 hijakers were Iraqi, and that Saddam Hussein was the mastermind behind the attacks, and not Osama Bin Laden. That is chilling. I am sorry you do not think so, but you are probably among those 60% that believe Osama is innocent.

I do agree with you that the protesters are irrelevant, however. History has proven that the winner is whoever is willing to resort to the greatest level of violence. Saddam knew this, and so does Bush.

Somebody needs to tell that to those Iraqis that keep going to the "USA GET OUT!" protests in Iraq. Can you believe there were 50,000 people at the last one? Wow. Those Iraqis love us.

I want to say something, since it seems I am the only New Yorker, and probably the only person who lost a friend in the 9/11 attacks.

I am disgusted that my "president" has allowed Osama Bin Laden to escape justice, a man who MURDERED 3,000 of my fellow New Yorkers. Bush has not mentioned Osama's name since June of 2002. Bush has publicly said Osama's capture is "irrelevent".

Well up yours, "President" Bush. Those of us in New York who LIVED through 9/11 (who were not COWERING in an airplane somewhere) believe IT IS A VERY RELEVENT THING TO CATCH OSAMA BIN LADEN.

Instead, this swine of a man has bankrupted the American economy and ruined America's standing in the world, just because of a family vendetta against a man that made his daddy look bad.

It's no wonder that 80% of New Yorkers were against this war. We STILL REMEMBER who killed so many of us that day. I suppose it's only natural... we were effected by it more deeply than you Oklahoma flag-wavers were. We lost friends that day. You Bush supporters miles away just got a reality TV show you really enjoy. You people are un-American and traitors to the people who died that morning.

"And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make."

A country that cuts out the tongues of people who slander the government or the leader is providing aid and haven to those terrorists (i.e. the people who cut tongues out). Ergo Iraq provided aid and haven. Easy decision.



http://brian.carnell.com/articles/2003/02/000010.html

May we see the questions from the Gallup poll?

There are terrorists residing in every nation. Shall we bomb Michigan because many live in Detroit?

ANSWER ME THIS, CHRIS: Would England have been justified in bombing New York and Boston, because that's where most IRA money came from, and still comes from? Are they justified? Because based on what you are saying, WE DESERVE TO BE BOMBED. We are providing safe-haven for terrorists. You are un-American if you believe New York City should be bombed because of the actions of a few Americans who support terrorist groups like the IRA. But I suppose the Brits could say that we are either with them or against them.



I have posted the questions in 2 other threads, including ones you were in. It's not my fault you are too stupid to remember. If you have forgotten Osama Bin Laden was behind 9/11, your memory must be pretty bad, so I am not surprised you have forgotten.

Nice blog entry. It's amazing how bloggers have begun to view themselves as journalists. I was particularly impressed by the use of the term "push poll," which shows the guy listens to a lot of Limbaugh, since Rush originated that term to discredit any poll that has a result that Republicans do not like.

We ALL do that, at some point in our lives.

Dude, you go out of your way to offend people; it's what you're all about. As a flag-waving Oklahoman, I can think of no greater compliment than having you think ill of me and those who happen to share my views. We must be doing SOMETHING right.

Keep it up.