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#541336 - 04/17/09 05:58 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: techmann]
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Hasn't DC "killed" Captain Atom? I don't I've seen him in a book for a LONG time. Is his disuse related to their uncertainty over ownership?

If I remember correctly, after the court case Superboy became a proper noun they dare not print at DC.

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#541361 - 04/18/09 06:01 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: techmann]
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It sounds like you are making some progress with DC, Pat. At least they are not totally stonewalling you anymore. Good luck!

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#542167 - 04/26/09 06:02 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: Peter Urkowitz]
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Well lets see….its been a week and a half since my attorney Byron spoke to their representative who reassured him that the paperwork was being e-mailed directly to him for our review. And….{drum roll}….. NOTHING…taadaa… the dance continues…. And continues……. You’d think that either their feet would start to tire out or the band would need to catch their breath,, wouldn’t you… awww…. who knows what evil lurks in the hearts at DC……. The Paul knows………
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#542170 - 04/26/09 06:24 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: techmann]
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Hey, I just got this "random" banner ad on another thread:



Maybe they're auditioning for the part of Plastique's dad. You should go.
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#542177 - 04/26/09 08:48 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: necrotechno]
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I'm too young for the part Necro.
but if their casting any parts for over worked, screwed comicbook artist that can't collect from the Dead Curs,,,let me know.

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#542656 - 04/30/09 09:34 AM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: techmann]
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One would have to ask silly questions such as this. Where’s the list of “Screw these creators” and whose’ office is it in. Is it Pauls. Or is it Terri”s.
I could spend 40 hours a week and discover more and more places where they’ve used my creations.
Example. Plastique, in the Justice league unlimited In addition to Smallville. Also, Major Force In JLU. And now, General Eiling in at least three episodes of the JLU. Oh I guess its going to be a huge payday. not to mention the sales of the DVDs and the Blueray versions.
What the hell do they pay their merchandising legal department to do, and if I can ever find that memo. Look out.
Pat Broderick

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#543108 - 05/03/09 09:17 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: Charles Reece]
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Originally Posted By: Charles Reece
And yet:
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Y'know, I've heard a lot of comics pros complain over the years about Jim Shooter's hard-ass management style when he ran Marvel from the late 1970s to the mid 1980s. So I'm sure there's something to it. However! During that period, Marvel produced some of its best comics ever, from Frank Miller's DAREDEVIL to Chris Claremont and John Byrne's X-MEN to Walt Simonson's THOR. So I figure that Shooter had to be doing something right.


I'm certain for those three, there were ten without any merit. We'll have to agree to disagree whether Claremont had any talent--Len Wein's issues were much better.

Shooter's only criteria for whether a book kept running or not was whether it was selling. He loved creators if their work was selling like hotcakes--if it was only moderately successful or average, he'd fuck with the creators relentlessly, and seemed truly 'colorblind' to quality, unless it had a sales figure of 100,000+ next to it. He represents every thing bad about corporate comics, invented or perfected it, even. Nobody takes any chance with new talent anymore, and diversity is reduced to about 5 or 6 different styles on the art, while ex-gamers who wouldn't know literature if it bit them on the ass run the quality of the writing into the ground with lousy editorship, of the most toady, people-pleasing sycophants they hire. Thank God there are exceptions, but more comics fall under 'Sturgeon's Law' than what is traditional in comics, now. Generally better-drawn, but with no depth, variation, or chances being taken.

Art is diversity, art is following a personal vision--not a 'pork-barrel' commodity. Comics as artform lost in the battle with the bottom line--and the thing is, nobody seems to have noticed.

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#543109 - 05/03/09 10:14 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: eldritch11]
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But in Shooter's defense (oh, golly, WHAT did I just type?) there's ALOT of difference between being a writer, an artist, an editor, and the EIC.

Can you imagine the meetings Shooter had to attend where he was asked WHY a certain book wasn't breaking 100K and WHY if it wasn't it was still getting INK and PAPER?

Just sayin'.

And EVEN THOUGH I hated the whole "kill Jean Grey" thing, Claremont DID make a mistake by making her so powerful. I saw it when she kicked Firestorms ass. I said to my friend when it was new, "Why does she need the XMen when she's on the Thor/Silver Surfer level?"

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Edited by Kirth (05/03/09 10:16 PM)
Edit Reason: English is my third language
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#543582 - 05/06/09 12:52 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: Charles Reece]
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41,637 views and growing......sweet

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#543583 - 05/06/09 01:01 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: Charles Reece]
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the level of views are out pacing the sales of their books...
twice as sweet.

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