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#530756 - 12/09/08 09:52 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: Joe Lee]
Silent Fox Offline
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee

And it's interesting to see you have more concern for standards regarding "zings" than you do your less than professional conduct dealing with resolving business transactions.


Oh THAT'S rich. Don't expect professionalism from an actual professional in the industry but expect it from "some fanboy getting a sketch"

Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
But hey, what more could you expect from a sales guy.


And take a stab at his job too. Real classy.

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#530757 - 12/09/08 10:03 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: Silent Fox]
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Well, real estate carpetbaggers *are* a big part of what's been happening to our economy lately.
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#530762 - 12/10/08 12:58 AM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: necrotechno]
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Originally Posted By: Silent Fox

Oh horse pucky. Are you really going to split hairs that way? A "new" deadline doesn't mean the old ones weren't valid. And Michael didn't really have much choice but to wait did he? He didn't have what he paid for and just because he was gracious enough to extend his patience with a new deadline doesn't make the previous deadline(s) any less valid.


Of course he had a choice. He chose to agree to a new deadline. If he agreed to the extended deadline he had no right to bitch until after that extended deadline. You can't call it gracious when he bitched about it here.

He tried to have it both ways.

Even you agreed, "Yeah, he didn't "shut up" about it prior to the 5th as he said he would so I'll give you that much."


Originally Posted By: Silent Fox

Account manager. Very long hours.


Dude. Seriously. There are a lot of people out there in the world, working very long hours at very challenging jobs that would probably get a kick out of an "account manager" saying things like...

"I don't know about you Joe, but I work hard to earn my money."

"I guess you don't value your hard earned money the way I value mine."


Originally Posted By: Silent Fox

And you obviously feel Broderick's tactics in posting this very thread is somehow the pillar of professionalism while the same tactics of another is not? I guess we will indeed have to agree to disagree.

Oh THAT'S rich. Don't expect professionalism from an actual professional in the industry but expect it from "some fanboy getting a sketch"


How is Mr. Broderik not professional by discussing this? I don't know about you Fox, but I'm sure the creators like Mr. Broderik worked hard to earn their money. Maybe not as hard as an account manager but still very hard.

A corporation REPEATEDLY and SYSTEMATICALLY escaping contractual obligations is not the same as someone getting a sketch a little later than he'd originally agreed to.

Michael is now enjoying his late drawing. While Mr. Broderik and others, are still waiting years, and in some cases decades later. They never have or may never be compensated. Some have even incurred legal costs in the efforts to get what is owed them. All while Michael is now enjoying his late drawing.

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#530767 - 12/10/08 02:36 AM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee

Of course he had a choice. He chose to agree to a new deadline.


Or else.... what? If he didn't agree to this "new deadline" then what, the work appears at his doorstep the next day? He has no control over when Broderick decided to ship this thing. What else can he do BUT wait?

Originally Posted By: Joe Lee

Even you agreed, "Yeah, he didn't "shut up" about it prior to the 5th as he said he would so I'll give you that much."


I agreed that he didn't keep his word that he would "shut up" about the matter. That has nothing to do with the validity of his complaint. There shouldn't have to be a NEW deadline. The OLD one should have been honored.

Originally Posted By: Joe Lee

Dude. Seriously. There are a lot of people out there in the world, working very long hours at very challenging jobs that would probably get a kick out of an "account manager" saying things like...

"I don't know about you Joe, but I work hard to earn my money."

"I guess you don't value your hard earned money the way I value mine."


Well doood, since your suddenly an authority on my job, tell me, how many hours do I work? How challenging is my job exactly? What type of account management do I do?

Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
How is Mr. Broderik not professional by discussing this?


Oh, so with Broderick it's "discussing this" and with Michael it's "bitched about it here." Bartender, give me a standard and make it a double!

Originally Posted By: Joe Lee

I don't know about you Fox, but I'm sure the creators like Mr. Broderik worked hard to earn their money. Maybe not as hard as an account manager but still very hard.


Again, tell me the specifics of what I do since apparently you're now an expert on my life and my job.

Originally Posted By: Joe Lee

A corporation REPEATEDLY and SYSTEMATICALLY escaping contractual obligations is not the same as someone getting a sketch a little later than he'd originally agreed to.


Dip into that vast fountain of knowledge of yours then and tell me, what were the details of Broderick's deal with DC that were repeatedly and systematically broken? Exactly what was he promised? Was this work for Michael merely a sketch or was it more than that? How much did Michael pay for this and what was the original timeframe promised? Surely you know all this since your speaking so confidently about it. So please enlighten the rest of us.

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#530777 - 12/10/08 05:07 AM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: Silent Fox]
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I take it there's nothing going on at YABS then?
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#530798 - 12/10/08 12:34 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: necrotechno]
Joe Lee Offline
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Originally Posted By: Silent Fox
Originally Posted By: Joe Lee

Dude. Seriously. There are a lot of people out there in the world, working very long hours at very challenging jobs that would probably get a kick out of an "account manager" saying things like...

"I don't know about you Joe, but I work hard to earn my money."

"I guess you don't value your hard earned money the way I value mine."


Well doood, since your suddenly an authority on my job, tell me, how many hours do I work? How challenging is my job exactly? What type of account management do I do?


You were the one who claimed to be the bar by which hard work should be judged. You tell me.

Is what I said in error? Are you saying there are NOT a lot of people out there that would arguably have harder more challenging jobs than you or I, possibly even more dangerous or physically exhausting?


Edited by Joe Lee (12/10/08 12:57 PM)
Edit Reason: added some crap from the other thread so we can maybe keep this all in one spot

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#530801 - 12/10/08 01:55 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: Charles Reece]
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Come on guys…play nice.
It’s a big playground. Michael has gotten his piece, Ari has gotten his piece, There’s one more late one and two more to new collectors. I’ve publically accepted my part in Michaels complaint. I’d rather keep the focus on DC not living up to their part. And the lady mentioned in an earlier post is, alas, no longer there.

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#530804 - 12/10/08 02:54 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: Silent Fox]
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I agree with some of what you have said earlier, Fox, such as the matter not being intrinsically private. But…

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Oh horse pucky. Are you really going to split hairs that way? A "new" deadline doesn't mean the old ones weren't valid. And Michael didn't really have much choice but to wait did he? He didn't have what he paid for and just because he was gracious enough to extend his patience with a new deadline doesn't make the previous deadline(s) any less valid.

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I agreed that he didn't keep his word that he would "shut up" about the matter. That has nothing to do with the validity of his complaint. There shouldn't have to be a NEW deadline. The OLD one should have been honored.


…Come on. If we all rationalized the way you do here, there would be no point to negotiation over disputes, and no meaning to agreements or deadlines.

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Well doood, since your suddenly an authority on my job, tell me, how many hours do I work? How challenging is my job exactly? What type of account management do I do?


I think you have missed Joe’s point on this one. He’s not trying to look down his nose at you ‘working class” types, he’s saying you came across as sanctimonious yourself when you made those earlier comments about not valuing money, etc.

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#530808 - 12/10/08 03:07 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: techmann]
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Originally Posted By: techmann
Come on guys…play nice.

We've steamrolled bigger celebrities than you, Tardy Man. wink
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#530809 - 12/10/08 03:10 PM Re: DC screws it creators [Re: necrotechno]
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Originally Posted By: necrotechno
Originally Posted By: techmann
Come on guys…play nice.

We've steamrolled bigger celebrities than you, Tardy Man. wink


ROFLMAO laugh
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