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#548508 - 06/18/09 08:41 PM Re: Black Terror, WIP. [Re: Peter Urkowitz]
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That's cool. You guys and your industrious wives, though! I'm so jealous.
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#548515 - 06/18/09 09:00 PM Re: Black Terror, WIP. [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Don't be jealous. I should have said, my then-wife-now-exwife. We divorced years later partly due to her disappointment at my failing to follow through on any of my youthful dreams, and my lack of drive and ambition in general. She had run out of patience with me.


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#548522 - 06/18/09 10:25 PM Re: Black Terror, WIP. [Re: Peter Urkowitz]
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Argh. The same thing happened to a friend of mine. His wife was making like $100K+ a year, but hated her job. He somehow convinced her he was going to be a famous novelist someday and support her. They got married, then he sat on his ass for like eight years. Divorced. Luckily, there were no kids, though.
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#548529 - 06/18/09 11:38 PM Re: Black Terror, WIP. [Re: Peter Urkowitz]
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Originally Posted By: Peter Urkowitz
...due to her disappointment at my failing to follow through on any of my youthful dreams, and my lack of drive and ambition in general.

My wife is kinda pushing me to do the dream thing too, but I keep being too practical.

After I got "downsized" two years ago, (the company went bankrupt about a month later). So I started getting all this freelance design and publishing work within weeks of leaving. Enough for me to think about doing freelance full-time and not bothering to find a new job. My wife agreed that I should try it. She knew it would also probably give me time to do more illustration projects maybe even do a comic. Which she knew was a something I've always wanted to try but never had time, because of my job, (But I really can't complain, one of my last real jobs being the boss meant the Art Director was happy to toss me an occasional freelance illustration job).

But after starting my own business I've gotten so much paying design work, I haven't had that much time for the spec illustration jobs, and I'm actually starting to make nearly the same money that I did when I had a real job. Not bad for a start-up, says my accountant. My wife thinks I should just drop the paying graphic design gigs to concentrate on the illustration, but no matter how much she says she'd be cool with it, I can't seem to ever do it. I'm either too practical or too chicken. That and I've know some of my clients for years, I would feel guilty. And probably worried how some new guy was screwing up their stuff.

Plus, I know full well it could take years of work before making anything near decent money, if ever, and it would be an excruciating task trying to rebuild a client base when I finally gave up.



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#548682 - 06/19/09 11:53 PM Re: Black Terror, WIP. [Re: Joe Lee]
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Man, artists still don't get no respect these days when it comes to teh craft and trade.
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#548686 - 06/20/09 02:05 AM Re: Black Terror, WIP. [Re: THE Anti-Hunter]
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Especially when they don't even have a drawing board.
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#548687 - 06/20/09 02:12 AM Re: Black Terror, WIP. [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Especially when they don't even have a drawing board.



Esp. when they can't even read but still think their shitty artwork rates the best, hah.
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#548688 - 06/20/09 02:15 AM Re: Black Terror, WIP. [Re: THE Anti-Hunter]
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Where did I say thought I was "the best?" Better than all you wannabes, sure, I said that many times. Now what was that again about being incapable of reading?
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#548689 - 06/20/09 02:28 AM Re: Black Terror, WIP. [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Where did I say thought I was "the best?" Better than all you wannabes, sure, I said that many times. Now what was that again about being incapable of reading?


You're not "better" than us. You have to know this? There are many attributes to art that we completely smoke you in one way or another. You just have the luxury of happenstance of not havint a fulfilling life that you were able to semi-seemingly render a few figures into a sequential order but not w/o liberties taken.

I think you should've stuck with scad honestly.
I think I will go there soon.
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#548704 - 06/20/09 03:11 AM Re: Black Terror, WIP. [Re: THE Anti-Hunter]
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What attributes do you and Ritchey "smoke" me at? Incorrect anatomy? General inconsistency? Overall blandness?

The "liberties taken" were to fix your lousy script.

I think you'd fit right in at SCAD (provided you've got the money, that is) — no talent, loud mouth, complete lack of dedication.
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