#551802 - 07/14/09 04:10 PM
Re: Poll: Allen Montgomery: Moron or Contributor?
[Re: Erik Larsen]
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Oh, but let me buy a couple of issues of Savage Dragon and say something complimentary to Larsen in his fights with Byrne, we'd see that little tune a'changin'.
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#551809 - 07/14/09 04:39 PM
Re: Poll: Allen Montgomery: Moron or Contributor?
[Re: eldritch11]
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As I've said, you don't want to meet me face to face. Not a threat, but I think I would hurt you badly before I knew what I was doing. Hahaha. And then you woke up.
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#551816 - 07/14/09 05:42 PM
Re: Poll: Allen Montgomery: Moron or Contributor?
[Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Wow. I'm starting to see why this guy and Hunter get along so well.
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#551820 - 07/14/09 06:17 PM
Re: Poll: Allen Montgomery: Moron or Contributor?
[Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Oh, but let me buy a couple of issues of Savage Dragon and say something complimentary to Larsen in his fights with Byrne, we'd see that little tune a'changin'. Nah, I've complimented Savage Dragon plenty of times, but Erik has never kowtowed to me at all. In fact, I think he's insulted me at least once. Not that I'm complaining, mind you, but my point is that he's not one to be swayed by flattery as you imply here.
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#551825 - 07/14/09 07:05 PM
Re: Poll: Allen Montgomery: Moron or Contributor?
[Re: Joe Lee]
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I'm sorry but I can't read "paranoid delusion," Could you translate for me? Thanks for making my point for me. You compare my art to some waste of human flesh who draws like a mildly retarded 14 year old, and expect me not to get pissed off? On top of the constant jabs before? Who'd being unreasonable?
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#551828 - 07/14/09 07:22 PM
Re: Poll: Allen Montgomery: Moron or Contributor?
[Re: Carlton Donaghe]
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We are blessed to have such a fellow in our midst.
Every forum needs to have an Allen.
And I am being serious. I disagree with you entirely. Mr. Montgomery is a complete bore. He's like a big, benign scab on your nose. It's not going to kill you, but there are alot of people who won't hang out with you because of it. And the only girls that will give you the time of day are the ones who feel sorry for you. On the other hand, this James Ritchie guy has gone over the deep end. While Montgomery is to blame for his own behavior, Ritchie's to blame for his response. Ritchie's unprofessional outbursts, his horrible language... ugh. As unfair as it might sound, a comics pro needs to comport himself a little better on a comics board, as a teacher would in front of their students and colleagues. Mr. Larsen is a good model of how to behave. He gets in here and mixes it up. He puts the idiots in their place. But he does it as a regular guy, as someone you'd like to know. I don't want either Montgomery or Ritchie to leave. I just wish they'd both act like goddamn grownups. Someone should really write a comic artist's ten commandments one of these days, and I volunteer you! In the meantime, I'll confront ignorant, casual evil as I see fit. If you find that distasteful or uncool, those are your issues. 'Blunt' implies honesty. I don't care if he thinks I suck--he's a shallow fuckhead, and not everybody is gonna like your art. Not what this is about. But if I sucked as bad as he says in his 'remedial' way, I wouldn't have had to turn down paying comic art jobs to write and draw stuff I believe in--and he wouldn't have to lie constantly and smear, call me a thief, to reinforce his 'point'. So, let me get this straight. When he says he doesn't like your Green Lama comics, he's lying about you? That's like...not what I said at all, douchebag. Dude... Joe is right about you. Anything's is possible...I guess. The sun could still revolve around a flat earth...maybe. Or maybe Joe got pissed off at me for being pissed off at him. That isn't lying. That's just hating your stuff. Saying you did a bad job of imitating another penciller isn't literally accusing you of stealing. It's not nice, and it may not be true... but it isn't what you're accusing him of either.
If you want to hate him back for things he said, I totally get that. But you're falsely accusing him of stuff just because your feelings got hurt.
I don't do hate. That's Montgomery's department. Hate is for unevolved morons. I get pissed off about real things, or confront idiocy with matching anger, then it's over. If that's insanity--disagreeing with you because you don't know and never will know the whole picture, then you've got a very narrow view of reality. While montgomery IS insane, i'm not going around calling everyone insane, just because I disagree with them. Cattle, maybe--naive conciliators, definitely. Thanks for the comparison to Hunter, while he can be moody, he's not an idiot--far from it. He's the opposite of you. Another skimmer. My feelings aren't hurt, as I've stated--don't care about the asshole--but I do want to warn as many as I can about him as possible. If you don't think a first time writer/ artist who's published through THE most maligned and marginalized comics company in the world can't be hurt financially by slander, there's no fucking hope for you.
Edited by eldritch11 (07/14/09 08:19 PM)
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#551829 - 07/14/09 07:36 PM
Re: Poll: Allen Montgomery: Moron or Contributor?
[Re: eldritch11]
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I'm sorry but I can't read "paranoid delusion," Could you translate for me? Thanks for making my point for me. You compare my art to some waste of human flesh who draws like a mildly retarded 14 year old, and expect me not to get pissed off? On top of the constant jabs before? Who'd being unreasonable? What "constant jabs?" And are you saying no one is can critique your art without you being insulted? And what a horrible mean spirited critique it was too. I'm so unreasonable.
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#551830 - 07/14/09 07:38 PM
Re: Poll: Allen Montgomery: Moron or Contributor?
[Re: eldritch11]
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Dude... Joe is right about you. Anything's is possible...I guess. Or maybe Joe got pissed off at me for being pissed off at him. Or both.
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#551833 - 07/14/09 07:56 PM
Re: Poll: Allen Montgomery: Moron or Contributor?
[Re: Joe Lee]
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I'm sorry but I can't read "paranoid delusion," Could you translate for me? Thanks for making my point for me. You compare my art to some waste of human flesh who draws like a mildly retarded 14 year old, and expect me not to get pissed off? On top of the constant jabs before? Who'd being unreasonable? What "constant jabs?" And are you saying no one is can critique your art without you being insulted? And what a horrible mean spirited critique it was too. I'm so unreasonable. Yeah--most people who haven't been insulted let shit like this go. I haven't insulted you--I simply called you out on being a two-faced dick in a few instances. I didn't call you 'insane' for disagreeing with your opinion, and understand you're just trying to look cool to your buddies. It's not that important to me. We both know that's what you do. Times like this, I wish I hadn't asked Conley to delete the slander-fest--so this would NOT all appear new to those contributing my current bashing, however pleasantly. In fact, it really doesn't matter any more. I asked you for a fucking real critique in the fucking sentence you quoted, because of all the back-handed shit, so I don't see how you could say I dislike honest critique--except maybe you thought I was stupid, and were unnerved that I noticed deliberate insults. Frankly, complimenting Necro in the same sentence isn't gonna help him improve at all.
Edited by eldritch11 (07/14/09 07:59 PM)
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#551835 - 07/14/09 08:03 PM
Re: Poll: Allen Montgomery: Moron or Contributor?
[Re: eldritch11]
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Yeah--most people who haven't been insulted let shit like this go. I haven't insulted you--I simply called you out on being a two-faced dick in a few instances. I didn't call you 'insane' for disagreeing with your opinion, and understand you're just trying to look cool to your buddies. It's not that important to me. We both know that's what you do.
Times like this, I wish I hadn't asked Conley to delete the slander-fest--so this would all appear new to those contributing to bashing me, however pleasantly. In fact, it really doesn't matter any more. I asked you for a fucking real critique in the fucking sentence you quoted, because of all the back-handed shit, so I don't see what your problem is--except maybe you thought I was stupid, and were unnerved that I noticed your slights. Frankly, complimenting Necro in the same sentence isn't gonna help him improve at all.
Actually I never thought you were stupid, I thought you were a nice guy and necro was a rude jerk, attacking you for being late with an indy comic. Now I think your something way worse than stupid. And you think anyone is going to take the time to honestly critique your work after they've seen how you react to the slightest perceived criticism? Well, yeah then maybe you're stupid too.
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