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#559178 - 10/17/09 09:59 AM Re: Bluewater Contracts [Re: Kirth]
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Originally Posted By: Kirth
Just a tiny bit of snark from Allen and he JUMPS?

Amazingly, Kerry's still here. Posted in another thread, even.
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#559179 - 10/17/09 10:02 AM Re: Bluewater Contracts [Re: ChrisW]
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Originally Posted By: ChrisW
Allen, you're being a dick.

How would you know, you supply clerk pussy?
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#559180 - 10/17/09 10:05 AM Re: Bluewater Contracts [Re: Bring Back Zot]
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Originally Posted By: Bring Back Zot
Kerry came here looking for some honest advice.

And that's what he got.


Originally Posted By: Bring Back Zot
I don't think he expected the standard "comicon hello" from Allen. In fact, very few pros (Erik Larsen, Jesse Hamm and Pat Broderick are exceptions) have patience for this nonsense.

We've thus far gone five days without a "Tony's Wildly Annoying Tips" announcement, so you should be grateful.
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#559181 - 10/17/09 10:12 AM Re: Bluewater Contracts [Re: Kirth]
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Originally Posted By: Kirth
Dark Horse did a great job marketing properties for movies.

Let's talk about what this thing is. Yet another horror anthology, with the gimmick of Bela Lugosi as the the celebrity host. What's the benefit of giving the creators ownership? If Lugosi is actually featured in the work, they'd have to either pay the licensing company to reprint the work elsewhere, or modify the character's likeness. And where else could the work be used? In another startup horror anthology?

Just pay the creators a decent page rate and be done with it.
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#559190 - 10/17/09 12:54 PM Re: Bluewater Contracts [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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We've thus far gone five days without a "Tony's Wildly Annoying Tips" announcement, so you should be grateful.

You can't claim credit for that, it'ss fear of having to admit he was wrong to Lawson. Your torture method isn't as effective.
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#559193 - 10/17/09 02:21 PM Re: Bluewater Contracts [Re: Charles Reece]
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Originally Posted By: Charles Reece
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We've thus far gone five days without a "Tony's Wildly Annoying Tips" announcement, so you should be grateful.

You can't claim credit for that, it'ss fear of having to admit he was wrong to Lawson. Your torture method isn't as effective.


Yeah, that, or maybe he decided everyone here was an asshole not worth having read his work.

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#559195 - 10/17/09 03:17 PM Re: Bluewater Contracts [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Kirth
...Creating Europeon-style, sci-fi/fantasy HCs for distribution through bookstores is probably more cost effective, since your material can be held for a much longer period than floppies.


I agree. That seems to be the new business model for a lot of people who are self-publishing, selling over a longer time, doing more of their own promotion and marketing, taking advantage of the flexibility of using PODs. And for comics even if you don't make any money, you have a great portfolio piece and at least you didn't work on somebody else's comic for free.


That's kind of what Corben did through the 1970s. And, of course, that's what Frazetta did.

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#559199 - 10/17/09 05:24 PM Re: Bluewater Contracts [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Let's talk about what this thing is. Yet another horror anthology, with the gimmick of Bela Lugosi as the the celebrity host. What's the benefit of giving the creators ownership? If Lugosi is actually featured in the work, they'd have to either pay the licensing company to reprint the work elsewhere, or modify the character's likeness. And where else could the work be used? In another startup horror anthology?

Just pay the creators a decent page rate and be done with it.


That's the first useful thing you've said, Allen. Good points, dealing with the issue of fair freelance contracts, not just questioning the worth of the product or my choice to be a publisher.
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#559201 - 10/17/09 05:36 PM Re: Bluewater Contracts [Re: Monsterverse1]
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Originally Posted By: Monsterverse1
That's the first useful thing you've said, Allen. Good points...


If your trying positive reinforcement it won't work.

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#559203 - 10/17/09 05:48 PM Re: Bluewater Contracts [Re: Charles Reece]
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Originally Posted By: Charles Reece
You can't claim credit for that, it'ss fear of having to admit he was wrong to Lawson. Your torture method isn't as effective.

That's true. But I opened up the playing field to engage Tony in conversation beyond his blog-spam posts, which led to that.
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