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#559484 - 10/22/09 04:55 PM Re: How about a Top Five question [Re: Joe Lee]
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Can we really be certain that Allen and Erik Larsen aren't the same guy?
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#559489 - 10/22/09 06:44 PM Re: How about a Top Five question [Re: Dumas]
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Originally Posted By: Dumas

Zander Cannon (Replacement God and Other Stories, Top 10)


Zander Cannon's pencil-and-ink work on Replacement God did have a nice, clean style to it. But on Top 10, he mostly did the layouts, and Gene Ha did the finished pencils and inks. Actually, from this interview, it sounds even more complicated than that, but I think most of the fine details and textures were by Gene Ha.

So while Cannon is an excellent all-around artist, I wouldn't put him in a list of inkers.

[BTW, that whole interview is pretty great. Cannon drops a ton of interesting tidbits on lots of different comics that he has been involved in. It's got the good and bad aspects of doing a comic at Image, stuff about DC, lots more. Recommended.]


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#559491 - 10/22/09 07:57 PM Re: How about a Top Five question [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Originally Posted By: Erik Larsen
He was an influence--but not a major one.

Hahaha. I guess it's true that one is not an adequate judge of one's own work.


No--it's true that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you're trying to cover your ass.
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#559492 - 10/22/09 07:59 PM Re: How about a Top Five question [Re: Dumas]
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Originally Posted By: Dumas
Can we really be certain that Allen and Erik Larsen aren't the same guy?


Or you and Allen. I have deadlines and don't have the time for such horseplay--you two have no such obvious excuse.
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#559493 - 10/22/09 08:03 PM Re: How about a Top Five question [Re: Erik Larsen]
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Originally Posted By: Erik Larsen
No--it's true that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you're trying to cover your ass.

As I said, I haven't looked at SD since I worked in a shop. So, eight years. Maybe you've abandoned the very Byrne-esque style from that period, I don't know. But he's obviously a major influence. Probably why you follow him around like a puppy.
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#559494 - 10/22/09 08:20 PM Re: How about a Top Five question [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Originally Posted By: Erik Larsen
No--it's true that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you're trying to cover your ass.

As I said, I haven't looked at SD since I worked in a shop. So, eight years. Maybe you've abandoned the very Byrne-esque style from that period, I don't know. But he's obviously a major influence. Probably why you follow him around like a puppy.


Again--wrong, inaccurate and completely baseless. Could not be further from the truth. At no point was my work remotely Byrne-esque --he was not a major influence--and I don't follow him around period.

You're clueless.
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#559502 - 10/22/09 11:39 PM Re: How about a Top Five question [Re: Alexander Ness]
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Originally Posted By: Alexander Ness
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Originally Posted By: Alexander Ness
Who are your all time top five favorite inkers?

Al Williamson.
Alex Raymond.


If you like those two great inkers/artists, you should check out the work of Jim Keefe, he is stunningly talented and evokes both creative people well.


I will.
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#559503 - 10/22/09 11:44 PM Re: How about a Top Five question [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
Originally Posted By: charlie
Sam Kieth. I just think his inking is spectacular.


Yeah, good one.

Sam Kieth, Mark Schultz, Brian Bolland would be some of my favorites. They primarily ink themselves though, don't they? Should that be a separate category?

Did Mac Raboy ink his own stuff?


I think when an artist looks significantly better when they ink themselves like Schultz, Kieth and Bolland all do that you can give credit to them as inkers. Heck I'd like to see Schultz and Kieth do some inking for other artists.

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#559504 - 10/22/09 11:46 PM Re: How about a Top Five question [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Originally Posted By: Erik Larsen
No--it's true that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you're trying to cover your ass.

As I said, I haven't looked at SD since I worked in a shop. So, eight years. Maybe you've abandoned the very Byrne-esque style from that period, I don't know. But he's obviously a major influence. Probably why you follow him around like a puppy.


Can you post some comparisons because I can't remember when Erik ever did any Byrne like art.

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#559510 - 10/23/09 01:19 AM Re: How about a Top Five question [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Originally Posted By: Lawson
I believe these are the words carved into Vince Colletta's gravestone.

Will you please lay off Colletta. He was better than Sinnott.


Tepid troll is tepid.

Check yer FF's circa #'s 40 -50 for the best head to head Sinnott/Colletta appraisal. I'll begrudgingly grant that Vince's work on Thor has some appeal to some nostalgia-blinded elder fans but his thin thin shaky linework is entirely inappropriate on FF.

Now while no one can dominate Kirby, Joe was still able to leave his own mark on his pages- an ability of which the virtue is extolled earlier on this thread. Check his inks over Buscema or Buckler a little later on and you'll see a remarkable formal consistancy to all the pages.

Top 5 inkers(tonight):

Bill Everett on Kirby and Barry Smith

Tom Palmer on Gene Colan and John Buscema (the first time-- not the 90's)

Al Williamson on JRjr

Klaus Janson on Miller

Austin/Giordino on Adams Supes vs. Ali Treasury
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