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#579269 - 11/01/10 05:17 AM
Re: Q for JB
[Re: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.]
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[quote=Troy Lightbourne][quote=Mike Keane]
His current situation is because he has shown himself to be disrespectful and unprofessional.
That is why he does not get work at the big two I don't know why Marvel ...Sorry. "M*****"... and DC don't want to work with Byrne. Look at how glowingly this very professional professional speaks of them on a public forum for all the World to read! From THIS thread: http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36815&PN=1&totPosts=9"Idiots.""These clowns cannot think in terms of anything but stunts. Marvel, DC, it's all the same. Even when they try to do something RIGHT, they break it immediately by doing it as a STUNT."JB has no desire to work for THEM in their current states of idiocy. Good for him. He made the right decision to steer clear. And yet he is content to make money from their characters. And that's NOT a bad thing. Trust me if he was offered work he would take it (at least from DC). What makes you think JB hasn't recently been offered work by either Marvel or DC? (Before you answer, keep in mind that not everyone takes criticism of how a business is run on a personal level.) He (and you) have to realise that while he was once the fans choice (especially during MOS)he no longer is. Indeed. Back when fans numbered in the hundred thousands. These days? Most are not REAL fans of comic books...at least not what comic books use to be. (Before you respond, keep in mind that I'm talking about fans that actually purchase current super-hero comics & actually enjoy them). Tastes change, the big boys in the business now are Johns/Bendis/Morrison/ & Brubaker/quitely/Hitch etc
Thats not a dig a byrne its just a statement of fact I wouldn't necessarily call it a dig, either, but comparatively speaking (as I imply above) most of the fans these days are an entirely different animal...so to speak...and that's NOT a positive thing. Paul, 1)tell me how it is not wrong to make money from a company he bad mouths on a regular basis? 2) WE know he has not been offered any work by them because he says so repeatedly. 3)So because people like comics now they are not real fans? Way to go paul, tell them what they are supposed to like. Lets not forget that comics hit their heyday in the 40s and 50s when they were selling millions, so by your logic anyone who started reading in the 70's or 80's who do not like comics from the golden age are not real fans.
Edited by Mike Keane (11/01/10 05:34 AM)
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#579270 - 11/01/10 05:17 AM
Re: Q for JB
[Re: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.]
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Tastes haven't changed; only Byrne's abilities have. LOL! Necro, you make some foolish statements sometimes, but this one definitely falls into your Top 100. Whilst I would disagree with Alan that tastes have not canged (i believe they have) He is still right that byrnes skills are not what they once were.
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#579271 - 11/01/10 05:33 AM
Re: Q for JB
[Re: shjonescrk]
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The feud between Byrne and Brevoort continues over at Byrne's ego-board: http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36824&PN=1&totPosts=23I'm not aggreeing at all with Brevoort who is attempting to justify the comic industry's self-destructive policies while shrugging his shoulders at the same time, but we do see that Byrne can't simply waltz back over to Marvel anytime he wants. The ego quip seems to have gotten to Byrne who on page 2 of the thread tries to demonstrate that it's not his ego that's the problem, however he demonstrates quite clearly that it's all about his ego - heaven forfend that a comic book company would expect the mighty JB to pitch for work. Given his current level of sales, it is obvious that he is not the star draw that he was (not saying he can not do good work just that he does not bring in the buyers the way he used too) so I think that it is only right that companies would expect him to pitch for business so that they can see if his plans for the book match where the companies want the characters to go. Also I think he needs to realise that whilst his sales figures for the big 2 are not good, they are perfectly acceptable for IDW (expectation vs return)so Chris Ryall asking byrne to work for him is a far different thing to dc doing the same. Also is it really that difficult for him to pick up a phone and say I would like to do xmen evermore?
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#579278 - 11/01/10 12:56 PM
Re: Q for JB
[Re: Troy Lightbourne]
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Well, I could be wrong if you take into account the fact that a lot of what made Byrne popular in the first place was actually done by Terry Austin. Oh absolutely! Byrne should get down on his knees everyday and thank that God he doesn't believe in for Terry Austin. Yeah! Screw all those other has-beens like Dick Giordano, Keith Williams, Bob Wiacek, Scott Hanna, Al Milgrom, Dan Green, Pablo Marcos, Mike Machlan, Paul Ryan, Joe Sinnott, Al Gordon, Jerry Ordway, Karl Kesel, Tom Palmer, John Beatty, Bud La Rosa's Nekros Studio, Doug Hazlewood, Mark Farmer...
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#579279 - 11/01/10 01:03 PM
Re: Q for JB
[Re: Troy Lightbourne]
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...VERY unaware of certain facts regarding JB's home. Byrne's house has always reminded me of the movie BIG, where a little kid is suddenly through magic transformed into an adult with access to an adult's salary. Being a little kid, he didn't know what else to do with all his money so he filled his house with toys and junk. Via Byrne's own words, we know he has a cleaning lady that he gives a hard time. (If there's anything worse than Byrne the Employee, it's GOT to be Byrne the EMPLOYER!! Oh, that poor woman!) Once he got fed up with her, he banned her from his studio ( I guess he couldn't put her on Ignore!) and got himself one of those vacuuming robots. His house is full of junk, paper, and he never turns on the air conditioner, so we know it gets hot. He has a leaky roof (Never buy a house with a flat roof!) so we can through some dampness into the mix. Furthermore, the guy lives in the woods. It's a perfect recipe for your own rain forrest. Thus he has a rat infestation. Wow! So much false information there (which will be considered gospel by a few gullible dweebs) that it doesn't bear any attempt at debate. You're completely lost to reality there, kid. Pathetic...as usual.
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#579280 - 11/01/10 01:05 PM
Re: Q for JB
[Re: Bendrix]
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What the heck is "thigh" on money?  Hoppla. Hab ich wohl einen Fehler gemacht. Tut mir Leid, dass es dir daher unmöglich war mein Posting zu verstehen. Aber dann schreiben wir halt auf Deutsch, da passiert mir das nicht so schnell. Denke das ist okay, oder? Not really. This is America! Speak Spanish!
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#579281 - 11/01/10 01:08 PM
Re: Q for JB
[Re: Troy Lightbourne]
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Poor Jean-Francois ! He chose a Halloween costume that didn't get Byrne approval. Another newcomer learns how things work at the JBF the hard way!
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36820&PN=1&totPosts=14 Uh oh. JB made his opinion known on his own message board again! Re-light the torches!
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#579282 - 11/01/10 01:09 PM
Re: Q for JB
[Re: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.]
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Yeah! Screw all those other has-beens like Dick Giordano, Keith Williams, Bob Wiacek, Scott Hanna, Al Milgrom, Dan Green, Pablo Marcos, Mike Machlan, Paul Ryan, Joe Sinnott, Al Gordon, Jerry Ordway, Karl Kesel, Tom Palmer, John Beatty, Bud La Rosa's Nekros Studio, Doug Hazlewood, Mark Farmer... It was not long after I started reading and posting that I discovered the mindset that reads any absence of endorsement as a condemnation. This seemed especially to be the case any time lists were involved. I could name my top five, ten, or 100 of just about anything, and sure enough somebody would pop up demanding to know why I had "no love" for some sixth, eleventh or 101st item.
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#579283 - 11/01/10 01:13 PM
Re: Q for JB
[Re: Bendrix]
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That guy is a fucking lunatic. Curious how ANYONE can deny it after postings like that. And, if my English is not well enough for Paul: Der Typ ist ein verdammter Irrer. Ich frage mich wie IRGENDJEMAND das nach diesem Posting noch abstreiten kann. Still waiting on the translation for "thigh" on money...
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#579285 - 11/01/10 02:17 PM
Re: Q for JB
[Re: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.]
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Not really. This is America! Speak Spanish! Mi extremo tiene llamas que salen de ello!
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