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#575860 - 08/04/10 04:31 PM
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Paul Sondersted can trot in now to explain why this totally wasn't an asshole-ish thing to say. Perhaps he could just quote another post by Byrne from the same thread: The amusing thing about that is watching the intellectual gymnastics to which fanboys will subject themselves when someone says something truly scurrilious, but they don't want to accept it. Amusingly enough, the majority of the thread is Byrne complaining about being quoted out of context. Yet in the post Lawson quotes above, everything after "the timeliness of that work" has been edited away.
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#575888 - 08/05/10 06:28 AM
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Here is the actual quote.
Which did not, by the way, endear Byrne to the man who now runs Marvel Comics.
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 9:48am
I recall Quesada using his mother's death as an excuse for his Daredevil work being late. At the time I noted that if the work had been on a realistic schedule to begin with, this family loss would have had no impact on the timeliness of that work.
I am tired of personal tragedies, natural disasters and other such upheavals being used as excuses for late books.
In the fall of 1980 I quit UNCANNY X-MEN, started on FANTASTIC FOUR, got engaged, moved to Chicago, got married and, in a nutshell, turned my whole life upside down. In the process, I lost about two months from my schedule. Did any of my books ship late? No. Why? Because I was ahead of schedule to begin with. JB a prince among men 
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#575890 - 08/05/10 08:19 AM
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He got engaged and married and long-distance relocated within a two month period? Gee, I wonder why that didn't work out.
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#575892 - 08/05/10 08:54 AM
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He got engaged and married and long-distance relocated within a two month period? Gee, I wonder why that didn't work out. Given his interpersonal skills, I'd say a hasty engagement was probably the least of the strikes against that union.
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#575895 - 08/05/10 12:02 PM
Re: Q for JB
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For the eleventy-billionth time, John Byrne complains about WATCHMEN and what a no-talent jerk Alan Moore is and how Alan Moore's fans are total idiots and gaaah, they all just ruined everything forever !!!
I think it kills Byrne inside that Moore is this internationally celebrated writer who transformed the medium -- whereas he is a largely forgotten for-hire hack who drew X-MEN 35 years ago.
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I was watching a few minutes of the WATCHMEN movie on cable last night, and I found myself musing on the notion of a "prequel" or sequel to the original comicbook series.
In WATCHMEN, Moore inverted -- I might say perverted -- pretty much everything the superhero genre is all about. He was not the first to do so, but WATCHMEN was the first time we got it all in such a concentrated dose. Largely, this seems to have happened because Moore is very much a one trick pony. The one trick works for him and his fans, so no problem there, I guess. But this got me to thinking about who would be a suitable candidate to produce another round of WATCHMEN.
The thought began to take shape in my head that any revisiting of those characters should be a continuation of the "tradition" of WATCHMEN. That is, as Moore trashed everything superheroes were all about, the next go-round should do the same with WATCHMEN itself. So the ideal candidate for doing the project should be someone who is equally a one trick pony, but from the opposite end of the spectrum. Immediately, one name sprang to the forefront: Rob Liefeld.
No, I'm not kidding. Liefeld would be to WATCHMEN what Moore was to superheroes in general. And it would be such fun to watch a whole flock of retailer's heads exploding, as they tried to serve two entirely different faces of mammon!
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#575896 - 08/05/10 01:11 PM
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Not to mention Moore's Supes story right before the reboot is still talked about fondly and considered an all time classic, while his Man of Steel is pretty much ignored.
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#575898 - 08/05/10 01:39 PM
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I found myself musing ...
But this got me to thinking about ...
The thought began to take shape in my head ... Jeebus, but Byrne spends a lot of time sitting around and thinking about Alan Moore. I wonder how often Moore thinks about Byrne?
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#575910 - 08/05/10 05:33 PM
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Moore is very much a one trick pony. The one trick works for him and his fans, so no problem there, I guess. Does he ever define what the "one trick" is? I thought Moore had a whole bag of tricks — playing with time and the order of events, correlating the dialogue of one scene with the visuals of another, shifting the mood unexpectedly, having the panel and page composition refer to something else, etc. — but I would love to hear Byrne's thoughts on how all these "tricks" are really just one. But this got me to thinking about who would be a suitable candidate to produce another round of WATCHMEN. And you know he wishes they'd ask him.
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#575911 - 08/05/10 05:34 PM
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Oh, and my candidate for doing a Watchmen sequel is Chester Brown.
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#575914 - 08/05/10 06:57 PM
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Moore is very much a one trick pony. The one trick works for him and his fans, so no problem there, I guess. Does he ever define what the "one trick" is? I thought Moore had a whole bag of tricks: playing with time and the order of events, correlating the dialogue of one scene with the visuals of another, shifting the mood unexpectedly, having the panel and page composition refer to something else, etc., but I would love to hear Byrne's thoughts on how all these "tricks" are really just one. Byrne has said that Alan Moore's "one trick" is "everything you know is wrong".
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