Paul--he's right--you're wrong.

It may be a small "victory" over a "who gives a flying fuck" point but there you go. Somebody else brought it up--it hadn't occurred to Byrne--and later it was his first thought.

Clearly, John was back-peddling.

You do yourself and John Byrne a tremendous disservice by arguing every single point regardless of whether he was right or wrong. The guy is not infallible. He makes mistakes. There's little point pretending that he doesn't. A simple, "okay, whatever" or "so what" resolves the issue and you can move on to tackling important fires instead of trifles such as this. Just catch the big ones, big guy--let the others go.

Oh, this ought to be good...



Normally, one would think so, but since JB even points out the other thread, it makes absolutely no sense (don't swing at the usual...) to believe there is any backpedaling going on.



Blanket statement...and an incorrect one at that.



And I don't know anyone who claims that JB is not infallible or makes mistakes. And I have yet to read about anyone pretending otherwise.



And it should never have been made an issue in the first place.



They majority are trifles...and most even less than that.

My question to JB would be:

Are you in anyway embarrassed by those self-elected individuals who choose to go round various fora defending your every word?

UH-OH! Detractor spin incoming...



Nice try, but JB doesn't have need to be embarrassed (don't swing at the easy ones!) by anything that happens on the internet.



No election of any kind took place. The wild exaggerations of detractors notwithstanding, the majority of JB's fans are simply people who like good (what a concept, I know!) comic books.



LOL! Comicon hardly qualifies as "various fora." Another swing and a miss for the detractors!



Again, JB has no need to be embarrassed, so nobody needs to defend anything. All JB's fans do is point out the wild lies and frequent exaggerations of a FEW bad apples, who unfortunately ruin things for everybody.

Sad.

very nice

It's always kind of funny when guys get into it with Paul because the impression I get it that he thinks he's the final word and has settled any dispute with his witty retorts when, in fact, almost everybody thinks he's a complete idiot and whatever he says carries no weight whatsoever.

I never walk away thing, "man, he sure put me in my place." Instead I'm thinking, "Well, that was a load of crap."

In point of fact, it was quite the opposite.

You guys will never seem to get it that it's the mean spirited posting activities that should NOT be considered badges of pride...And yet, time & again it's considered to be a good thing to have a detrimental attitude?

Some literally go out of their virtual way to be negative & act like a deer in headlights when they are called on their inanities.

Key word above is "act" as I have no doubt that most of these detractors are fully aware of their adverse posting proclivities.

This thread COULD have been fun (and I think that was the initial intention), but it has turned (and NOT by me) into yet another detractor-filled mess.

Sad (Thanks, Dan!)

One thing you should never, EVER do via the Internet is try to get any sort of impression of what someone may be thinking. It's almost always invariably wrong...as it is in this particular case.

Instead of trying to join in with the detractors (unless, of course, you are THAT desperate) & play with the spotlight, try sticking to what is within your grasp...and it's certainly not the original subject at hand...by far.

Paul--seriously--the schtick is getting pretty tired.

Labeling anybody who has a disagreement a "detractor" is as misguided and ill-conceived as McCarthy labeling people who disagreed with him "reds" or racists calling blacks "niggers." It alienates people and drives them from your side and your cause.

You have become a red-baiter.

We all want there to be good comic books. All of us. If John Byrne is capable of doing good comic books we want that. There is no "us vs. them" here--no "supporters vs. distractors"-- it's not a black and white world we live in, after all-- one can point out that John Byrne drew too many fingers on the Invisible Woman without crossing some imagined line and becomming the enemy. Labeling the enemy is doing far more harm than good.

And if casting you as a guy with enough of a conviction to believe that your posts have some weight and legitimacy is a mistake, then I humbly apoligize and ask, why then do you reply to anybody?

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I agree with Erik. Byrne CAN produce quality comics, in THEORY. He just needs to DO IT.

I'd read him on FF again, X-Men: NO, not after that last bit of insanity. But FF, sure. And I HATE comics, as we know.

Even Next Men MIGHT be good with a reboot. He needs to get a deal and show us his ideas.

If his ideas are Generations or Lab Rats or Babe, no one CARES. Star Trek? Even Trek fans don't buy Trek comics, if they did Star Trek Crew would be selling in the 25K area.

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