Paul.

You need to be real careful about labling people.

I have been (and still am in many cases) a byrne fan.

As I have told you before, I own pretty much everything he has done (with the exception of his star trek stuff)

And still think he was an exceptionally gopod artist (who has lost some of the power and energy of his earlier work)

So please do not give me that detractor bollox.

I will point out when he has been a twat, and will (and have) point out when he does something nice.

So I am neither a detractor nor looking at the man with rose coloured glasses (as you do)

So please rein your bullshit in.

You come accross as a petty immature child, who just resorts to name calling when he does not get his own way.

If you put forwarda reasond argument/debate I will pay attention till then, please do not bother trying to bait me or even respond to me.

Thanks

That not the point at all.
The point is: Why, knowing that nobody (including JB) is perfect, you choose to accept his words as proof.
Didn't you claim somewhere that you are a friend of logic? That behavior is highly illogical.

Holy Moley! You just described most Detractor's modus operandi's!

Why start now?



Then perhaps you should stop drinking Detractor's Kool Aid.



Good for you.



Definitely some fogginess in your lenses there, though. Otherwise, if you were aware of actual facts, you'd not be making (and here it comes!) such an assumption.




When the bull**** discontinues from the Detractor's side, then perhaps your confusion about it's origins will also discontinue. Then again...



Interesting choice of wordage there. Sounds very familiar. I get a strong sense of deja vu & I'm not exactly sure why.



When I encounter reasonable arguments/debates I will react accordingly. When I encounter most Detractor's arguments/debates I treat them as they deserve to be treated...as the bullies they try so hard (and fail) to be.

If you are feeling baited, then that's your phobia. Don't take things so seriously & certainly don't believe everything you see, as looks can be quite deceiving.

Oh, and I hope the air isn't too thin up there on that high horse of yours.

You are trying to make it out as though I believe EVERY single word that JB puts forth is proof and/or gospel. Believing such an inane thing is what is actually highly illogical.

I don't recall making such blanket statements regarding any and all things that JB says on message forums. This is only in regards to one particular incident.

I did go back and read them again. here's my take on it.

Paul: JB has appreciated CONSTRUCTIVE criticism in the past (do your own homework).

I asked for an example.

Paul: quoting JB wrote: Everybody is entitled to an informed opinion. If a commentator can give me a good idea of what it is s/he doesn't like, I welcome the input.

I pointed out this was Byrne saying he would welcome the input, not an actual example of such input being accepted or welcomed.

After which Paul responded in a rather aggressive manner and on more than one occasion. Apparently I am low life scum.

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We must remember, of course, if we, the Detractors, had said something negative about Byrne we would be asked by Paul to provide proof, links etc. Yet, when Paul says something positive about Byrne and we ask for proof, we are supposed to accept as true on the basis that Paul has written that it is so. To me, this seems a tad hypocritical.

It can't qualify as an over-the-top reaction because it's on a message board??? Well, this from the guy who constantly cries "detractor" I can see why you'd want that to be true but once again, Byrne looked at a man's Halloween costume and said, "You're celebrating Halloween by shitting all over Will Eisner's grave!"

Crass and over-the-top.

Not only was that over the top, but when Poor Jodi, hardly a Byrne detractor, politely mentioned that to him, her polite criticism was met with over-the-top hostility!



Who cares if he's fanning himself and sipping mimosas? The guy's flown into a crazy rage over people's Halloween costumes, the way Mickey Mouse walks, the mere suggestion that Spider-Man wears red and blue, etc. If he is taking these suggestions in stride, he might want to edit his posts more carefully 'cause they sure as Hell ain't coming across that way.

It sure wasn't Byrne's laid back, easy-goin' demeanor that drove Poor Jodi away!

But... wasn't Honest John's word good enough for you?

It's a lot easier to scream "detractor" than it is to actually address a point with a suitable defense. It's really the lowest, most childish form of argument.

Your interpretation of events is filled with exaggerations.

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Once again... check the thread. It's how it went down. You may not like it because your boy really looks a very touchy jerk in this one, but it is how it happened.



Most of the drama usually comes from you trying hopelessly to say that Byrne isn't a shit right after he's acted like a shit.




What are the gradations of moral ambiguity that make it okay for Byrne to react like a bay to Jodi's comments or to tell Poor Jean-Francois that he was shitting all over Will Eisner's grave?

I'm sure there probably are instances where it is justified to tell someone they are shitting all over someone's grave, but a Halloween costume sure isn't it.



Again... where's this gray area that makes it okay to tell someone their Halloween costume is shitting all over someone's grave?