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#587617 - 07/05/11 03:35 PM Re: InvestComics’ Deadly Tales: One and Done Anthology [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
Hunter, do you measure your panels?

Panel Three seems so different than it is on your rough layout. I was just having trouble seeing how Allen was supposed to ink them. Were you going to assemble them all in photoshop before passing them on? Or do you give the inker free reign to play with the layout?


Hmm...is it because panel 3 isn't tight enough in the background?

It's really small on actual size...and I was using a .07mm mechanical pencil to try and draw small...I'm used to big sized canvas and drawing paper.

Any suggestions I'm open to. I will break out the big scanner and scan in the whole page as is so you can see what measurements I'm working at. I'm right now all inside the live area of a blue line pro board. I hate it.
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#587618 - 07/05/11 03:39 PM Re: InvestComics’ Deadly Tales: One and Done Anthology [Re: Joe Lee]
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I've been planning on buying a tabloid size printer, as was suggested in a thread from last year (I think).

I'll clean up the lines, specifically the panel borders, and nudge some things around in Photoshop, see how the text areas are going to fit in, then print it out on regular paper. Then I'll scribble a bit here and there with whatever pencils are at hand — trying to do this in Photoshop just isn't the same — and re-scan. Turn it all blue, except maybe for the panel borders, print on Bristol. Ink, final scan.
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#587619 - 07/05/11 03:40 PM Re: InvestComics’ Deadly Tales: One and Done Anthology [Re: THE Anti-Hunter]
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Oh, panel 2 is panel 1 in the thumbnail I layed out on the right side...so I'm still drawing that. I just was advised I should've added some smaller panel to set up the shots, which is why there's a new panel one.

I'm rusty and honestly I feel out of practice. I have a layout in mind, but who knows if that will flow with everyone else when I'm done. If I have to, I will redraw this when it's done.

I was trying for a loose line on the panel borders, creepshow effect like scraps of paper or something...I didnt' like the look of straight lines. but if you guys think it'll look better with ruled panel borders, I'm all for what works best to get this page accepted for the book!


Edited by THE Anti-Hunter (07/05/11 03:44 PM)
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#587620 - 07/05/11 03:42 PM Re: InvestComics’ Deadly Tales: One and Done Anthology [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
I've been planning on buying a tabloid size printer, as was suggested in a thread from last year (I think).

I'll clean up the lines, specifically the panel borders, and nudge some things around in Photoshop, see how the text areas are going to fit in, then print it out on regular paper. Then I'll scribble a bit here and there with whatever pencils are at hand — trying to do this in Photoshop just isn't the same — and re-scan. Turn it all blue, except maybe for the panel borders, print on Bristol. Ink, final scan.


I have a tabloid size scanner. This will make more sense I think when I finally scan in the whole page for everyone to see my layout. Then I'll take your guys' suggestions and alter them. I'm already going to redux panel 1 and move it over to the trim of the board. I was so worried about stuff getting cut off, that I scrunched everything into the live area. there is no dialogue. It's all Ness's poem as captions or scroll captions w/ the exception of the one sfx, which is "FWOOOOSH!!", the sound of someone igniting I think.

Fuck. Y'all got me all kinds of self-concious now!!!
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#587626 - 07/05/11 04:35 PM Re: InvestComics’ Deadly Tales: One and Done Anthology [Re: THE Anti-Hunter]
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You were drawing each panel individually but in your rough layout they overlap, with panel three behind 4 and 5, but in your pencils panel three and four look roughly the same size. I was just curious how you integrate it all together.

I've been trying something where I draw each panel individually in a sketchbook, then place them together in photoshop, then ink them together in one page/one size, to avoid any variations that were in the pencils.

When I tried inking first then, combining everything, the inked panels sometimes looked really odd, largely due to the inconsistencies in the line quality created by some panels having been enlarged and others reduced.

Another thing I tried was scanning in ink lines to use as panel bordersin ps


Edited by Joe Lee (07/05/11 05:06 PM)

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#587627 - 07/05/11 05:03 PM Re: InvestComics’ Deadly Tales: One and Done Anthology [Re: Joe Lee]
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Oh I didn't draw each panel individually perse. I just scanned and cropped them individually so you could see them by themselves. All of this was done on the same page layout.
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#587628 - 07/05/11 05:10 PM Re: InvestComics’ Deadly Tales: One and Done Anthology [Re: THE Anti-Hunter]
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Oh. I've been playing around with doing each panel by itself.

Here is a page I did, where I drew each panel individually then put them together in PS, the next step would be ink the whole page on vellum not bristol.

I suppose if I really wanted to have finished pencil boards I could lightbox it and redraw in bristol, then ink or ink on the light box.


Edited by Joe Lee (07/05/11 05:14 PM)

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#587630 - 07/05/11 06:14 PM Re: InvestComics’ Deadly Tales: One and Done Anthology [Re: Joe Lee]
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Great job on that page, Joe. I don't know, lots of artists do composite their pages these days, it just seems more difficult not having the full page layout before me all the time. One thing's going to relate to another and all that. You can still shift panels a little and tinker with the full page in photoshop.
BTW folks, my One and Done is done and sent two weeks ago cool
Hunter, has InvestComics had much response to this, is end of August still the deadline?


Edited by MightyQuin (07/05/11 06:27 PM)

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#587631 - 07/05/11 06:46 PM Re: InvestComics’ Deadly Tales: One and Done Anthology [Re: MightyQuin]
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Last I spoke to Jay, he mentioned the pages are in fact piling in and there's some good stuff!

Awesome Ed.

Joe, that page looks wicked!
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#587636 - 07/05/11 10:18 PM Re: InvestComics’ Deadly Tales: One and Done Anthology [Re: MightyQuin]
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Two weeks ago?

Wow, I just finally finished my script over the weekend. I'm sooooo slow.

Thanks for the kind words guys. That's a page from an old piece I'm reworking. But now that it's being rewritten, I'm glad I did in parts. It seems so much easier to make changes.

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