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#589478 - 08/15/11 11:15 AM Re: Peter David is a great writer! [Re: Lawson]
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Originally Posted By: Lawson
...That was the last we ever saw of Tony Isabella.

I shouldn't have done it. I should have stopped once I had established that Wein said what I said he said. Tony's attitude just stuck in my craw. Tony -- who got into a lot of Internet arguments -- could dish it out but not take it. I should have been the bigger man there.
I don't know. Why should you have to treat someone different than anyone else?

I like Tony, and was pissed at the time when you went after the guy, but if you had that same dispute with me or anyone else would you have done anything any different? If it had been anyone else it would have been hilarious. And I'd like to think most of us around here would have taken it for the joke it was, and took our lumps. Maybe not I don't know...

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#589479 - 08/15/11 11:23 AM Re: Peter David is a great writer! [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
I don't know. Why should you have to treat someone different than anyone else?


I probably shouldn't be that rough on anyone here, regardless of whether he's a pro. Arguing is fine. Standing up for yourself is fine. But I went out of my way to rub Tony's face in it. I shouldn't have done that to anyone.

Some years ago, in a debate with Paul Sondersted about Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster -- he defended something dumb Byrne said and argued that S&S had been foolish with their finances -- I dug up Paul's personal bankruptcy filing. I figured it was relevant. Oy, what the hell was I thinking? Talk about going over the top.

Last week, noticing how cavalierly ChrisW was insulting other people in a thread, I poked the little button on his forehead that predictably made the cuckoo bird spring out. I shouldn't have done it.

I'm OK with my behavior here maybe 90 percent of the time. The remaining 10 percent makes me cringe.

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#589480 - 08/15/11 11:39 AM Re: Peter David is a great writer! [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
How did he not allow you your opinion?

Go back and read the thread, starting here. Notice that you also didn't know why the production line method of pencil-ink was even invented. And Larsen accused ME of not having a clue.
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#589481 - 08/15/11 11:42 AM Re: Peter David is a great writer! [Re: Lawson]
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Originally Posted By: Lawson
I probably shouldn't be that rough on anyone here, regardless of whether he's a pro. Arguing is fine. Standing up for yourself is fine. But I went out of my way to rub Tony's face in it. I shouldn't have done that to anyone...
Fair enough. But you never know when one little offhand comment will bring you someone's week long wrath. It's when I get caught up in those stupid fights that I question myself for posting in forums like these, so I guess I can't blame any pros for not posting here.

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#589482 - 08/15/11 11:46 AM Re: Peter David is a great writer! [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
How did he not allow you your opinion?

Go back and read the thread, starting here. Notice that you also didn't know why the production line method of pencil-ink was even invented. And Larsen accused ME of not having a clue.
I don't want to re-argue the whole thing. As I'm guessing neither did he, endlessly.

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#589483 - 08/15/11 11:50 AM Re: Peter David is a great writer! [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
It's when I get caught up in those stupid fights that I question myself for posting in forums like these, so I guess I can't blame any pros for not posting here.


Years ago I kept a yellow stickie note on my car's dashboard that said "F.I.D.O." It was short for "Forget It, Drive On." If someone cut me off in traffic -- if someone swiped a parking space I was headed for -- forget it, drive on. Don't lose your temper. Especially don't lose your temper when you're driving two tons of metal and glass.

I need to put a F.I.D.O. stickie note on my computer.

Forget It, Drive On.

I'm like you, I sometimes find myself in furious typing matches over the silliest shit -- and I think, "Why am I losing my cool over this?!"

I still post here -- some days more than others -- because I still enjoy the company of you, Alex, Budman, Charles and the other long-timers. Yes, even Allen! I just have to remind myself that it's supposed to be a source of fun, not stress. When I start flipping out, it's time for a short break.

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#589487 - 08/15/11 12:20 PM Re: Peter David is a great writer! [Re: Lawson]
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I did that in the Black Terror thread. I was gone for about three weeks. When I got back, there had only been about twenty posts on the entire board while I was away. Even Cory didn't spam the Gutters. It was quite odd.
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#589488 - 08/15/11 12:24 PM Re: Peter David is a great writer! [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
I don't want to re-argue the whole thing. As I'm guessing neither did he, endlessly.

There's no arguing that Larsen was heavily influenced by Byrne. That is a fact. He even wrote an article on Newsarama saying as much, although I hadn't read it at the time.

There's also no arguing that Colletta was a better artist than Sinnott. Neither one was consistently good, but Colletta was occasionally okay. Sinnott was just a tracer with a very flat line.
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#589489 - 08/15/11 12:25 PM Re: Peter David is a great writer! [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Yeah, there's no rhyme or rhythm to posting here.

Sometimes I'm gone a few days and there are 100 new posts scattered among the three areas I check (News, Comics and Politics). Other times, there's almost nothing new and you can hear crickets chirping.

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#589493 - 08/15/11 12:58 PM Re: Peter David is a great writer! [Re: Lawson]
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Lawson needs one of Peter Allen David's first names too.

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