#598484 - 06/15/12 07:43 PM
Re: So we can just fire off random missiles at Libya?
[Re: Allen Montgomery]
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You're spouting nonsense, as usual. Now Romney can convince Iran? I'm not asking a question. Tell us what is wrong with supporting revolution in Syria. What are you, an autocrat who shoots people for not obeying? Or just an idiot who's fine with the slaughter in Libya and Syria?
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#598487 - 06/15/12 08:00 PM
Re: So we can just fire off random missiles at Libya?
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Connect that with supporting revolution. Go on.
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#598508 - 06/16/12 12:28 PM
Re: So we can just fire off random missiles at Libya?
[Re: Allen Montgomery]
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I know what those words mean, but that sentence makes no sense. And why are you using the imperative?
Connect Romney's ability to convince Iran to stop being at war with us after 40 years to "supporting revolution" or connect your lack-of-interest in Libyan ethnic cleansing and Assad's military assault with "supporting revolution"?
You should just admit you don't know anything about the situation and care less about the consequences. It would be better for everybody.
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#598511 - 06/16/12 02:00 PM
Re: So we can just fire off random missiles at Libya?
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So instead of trolling out aspersions and see what bites, put forth some idea of what you think should be happening in that part of the world. Beyond "Obama bad," I mean.
And I could swear I've asked you to do this before...
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#598523 - 06/16/12 06:03 PM
Re: So we can just fire off random missiles at Libya?
[Re: Allen Montgomery]
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You're the one who was so hot to credit the President with the results of Libya and giving Assad the opportunity to gun people down in the streets for months. I already knew Obama would vote "present", just as in '09 when Iranians rose up. In short, you're the one casting aspersions.
Granted, before Qaddaffi died you were insisting that the US was hardly doing anything and that even Obama had to be pressured into "leading from behind", but no one ever claimed you were consistent. Sucks to be a Libyan, or a Syrian, or an Iranian, or anyone trying to get out from an autocrat's thumb.
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#598525 - 06/16/12 06:10 PM
Re: So we can just fire off random missiles at Libya?
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Allen doesn't think there are enough people shooting in SyriaRussia is sending armed troops to Syria amid escalating violence there, United States military officials told NBC News Friday, in a move certain to frustrate Western efforts to put pressure on the regime of President Bashir Assad.
Moscow has sent a ship carrying a small contingent of combat forces to guard Russia’s deep-water port and military base at the Syrian city of Tartus, the US officials said.
The U.S. officials also said Russia has not sent additional attack helicopters to the Syrian government, but replacement parts for the Russian helicopters the Syrians are already flying. So why don't we send more targets, er, I mean people? The head of the U.N. observers in Syria said Friday a recent spike in bloodshed is derailing the mission to monitor and defuse more than a year of violence and could prompt the unarmed force to pull out.
"Violence over the past 10 days has been intensifying willingly by the both parties, with losses on both sides and significant risks to our observers," Maj. Gen. Robert Mood told reporters in Damascus. "The escalating violence is now limiting our ability to observe, verify, report as well as assist in local dialogue and stability projects." "Local dialogue and stability projects." When did the US become any good at that? Tartus is one of Russia’s most strategically-important assets, giving it military access to the Mediterranean Sea.
Russia and China, both permanent members of the U.N. Security Council with veto power, frustrated attempts by key Western figures, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, to enforce a United Nations peace plan brokered by special envoy Kofi Annan. But at least we have an ambassador there. Robert Ford will take care of everything.
Edited by ChrisW (06/16/12 06:11 PM)
Edit Reason: Don't read this.
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#598535 - 06/17/12 02:23 AM
Re: So we can just fire off random missiles at Libya?
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You're the one who was so hot to credit the President with the results of Libya No, that would be NATO. I credit the President with deciding to continue our support role despite the crying from Republicans. Now please explain what that has to do with the situation in Syria.
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#598542 - 06/17/12 08:01 AM
Re: So we can just fire off random missiles at Libya?
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Is there some reason you keep using the imperative? Who died and made you despot? No, that would be NATO. I credit the President with deciding to continue our support role despite the crying from Republicans.
So why aren't you including the ethnic cleansing that followed. Even Qaddaffi pointed out that without him it would be chaos. Bush Sr. has some responsibility for Saddam slaughtering thousands of Kurds, doesn't he? It's not a unilateral operation, and the US isn't even taking the lead. The UN made the decision to hit Libya, and our president even had to be convinced. Libya is not our operation (although I'd like to see you put there). It's not Obama's war in Libya; and if BushJr had done the exact same thing you'd have a wet spot on the front of your BDU trousers right now. The defense rests.
As does the corpse of Gadhafi, in a meat locker, thanks to the unerring judgment of President Obama. Does the buck stop with the President or not?
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#598558 - 06/17/12 03:40 PM
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Bush Sr. has some responsibility for Saddam slaughtering thousands of Kurds, doesn't he? Please point to where anyone here has ever made that argument. Does the buck stop with the President or not? On what's happening in Syria? Uh, no.
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#598565 - 06/17/12 06:56 PM
Re: So we can just fire off random missiles at Libya?
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Then why did you give him any credit in the first place? Gadhafi's death is fueling revolution in Syria... THANK YOU, PRESIDENT OBAMA!! Please point to where anyone here has ever made that argument. I just did. That was me. Yooh-whoo! Over here!
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