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#593697 - 12/01/11 07:09 PM New John Carter trailer...
Joe Lee Offline
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New John Carter trailer...

http://disney.go.com/johncarter/#/trailers-videos

The movie looks huge. I've been excited about this movie for a long time, I read all the books as a kid. And already I've been hearing people compare scenes to scenes from some of the Star Wars movies, knowing full well that the Mars books predate the prequel trilogy by ninety years.

That's like thinking the Marx Brothers ripped of Alan Alda. Crazy idiots.

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#593701 - 12/01/11 11:35 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Joe Lee]
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I think it's because of the way they changed the white apes to look like the Harryhausen-type creature from Return of the Jedi. That's what I got from AICN, anyway.
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#593702 - 12/02/11 12:07 AM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Charles Reece]
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Yeah, no matter when the source material came out, there's no way the movie will not be influenced by Lucas.
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#593706 - 12/02/11 04:47 AM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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I got excited when I heard, way back when, that Robert Rodriguez was going to do A Princess of Mars film.

Seeing the trailer for Disney's version is a letdown. The title is extremely generic sounding, Mars looks like the American southwest, and the aliens look too cartoony IMO.

Princess Leia in ROTJ looks more Deja Thoris than Deja Thoris here.

Hope it's good for the Barsoom fans though.
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#593711 - 12/02/11 11:08 AM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Joe Lee]
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It looks like it won't suck, but...

1. The Tharks look awfully skinny.

2. Is JC really sporting a Civil War appropriate haircut?

3. Way, way, waaaaay too many clothes on Dejah Thoris.

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#593714 - 12/02/11 11:17 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: MBunge]
Joe Lee Offline
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I was thinking the same thing about Deja Thoris, I mean, I didn't expect the Martians to be naked through the whole movie, or even close, but yeah, everyone seems way to heavily clothed. Maybe it's different through the whole film. Depending on the scene, I'm sure Carrie Fisher wouldn't have worn a metal bikini for a whole SW trilogy, (But who knows, Lucas keeps making changes).

But the tharks and Carter's hair seemed ok to me. They don't look like they have less muscles than the red martians or humans, it's maybe it's the height, that creates an odd perception that they are skinny. They don't look much different than they were portrayed by Michael Whelan, on the series I read, and John Carter's hair seems long too...




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#593715 - 12/02/11 11:17 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: MBunge]
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Another interesting portrayal, a 1970's cover that portrays the green Martians similar to the new movie, but Deja Thoris is pale but nearly naked...


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#593716 - 12/02/11 11:23 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Joe Lee]
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It could be a lot worse...


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#593717 - 12/03/11 12:25 AM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Charles Reece]
Joe Lee Offline
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Originally Posted By: Charles Reece
I think it's because of the way they changed the white apes to look like the Harryhausen-type creature from Return of the Jedi. That's what I got from AICN, anyway.
The apes have looked worse...


Did Lucas ever get crap for ripping off Harryhausen? I remember getting one of those "making of" books after the original SW came out where they went page to page showing how almost every scene was "inspired" by classic sci-fi and fantasy novels like Princess of Mars, LOTR and Dune, world war II aerial battles and films like Scaramouche and Akira Kurosawa's "The Hidden Fortress" there were shots from a Johnny Weismuller Tarzan film, Tarzan and Jane about to swing on a vine, next to a shot of Luke and Leia about to do the same but with that dental floss Luke brought to the Death Star.

Ever see this, this guy worked out a chart where he explains how Lucas got everything from the Force to Jabba the Hutt from Dune...

http://moongadget.com/origins/dune.html

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#593718 - 12/03/11 12:39 AM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Joe Lee]
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