#595660 - 02/03/12 11:46 AM
Re: DC Announces Watchmen Prequel(s)
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When added to the similar claim with Eisner, it casts an interesting shadow. Of doubt, that is. I keep thinking of Bob Woodward getting those fantastic deathbed confessions from CIA director William Casey, except nobody at the hospital remembered seeing Woodward, and it's not like Casey's room was left unsecured.
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#595661 - 02/03/12 12:21 PM
Re: DC Announces Watchmen Prequel(s)
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Say what you will about Kevin Smith -- he's fat and stupid, his movies suck -- he turned down a chance to work on Watchmen 2 when Dan DiDio and Jim Lee approached him.
“Talked to Jim [Lee] and Dan [DiDio] about it two years ago. Only passed because I’m not Alan Moore, sadly. If I was Alan Moore, I’d be all over it. As Kevin Smith, I’d likely just make Bubastis “big pussy” jokes and have Rorschach wet himself. Hurm.”
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#595662 - 02/03/12 01:01 PM
Re: DC Announces Watchmen Prequel(s)
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When Watchmen first came out, and after you read it, did any of you wish the story would continue? If so, how did you imagine it would be? Were there any characters or parts of their history that you wanted to see?
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#595663 - 02/03/12 01:22 PM
Re: DC Announces Watchmen Prequel(s)
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Wein, on the other hand, obviously knows Moore. He edited WATCHMEN. Now he presumes to replace Moore as the writer on this story that Moore, not Wein, invented and wrote.
It may be "nothing personal" with the others, but not so with Wein. Uh, while I don't think Wein's involvement in the creative process that produced WATCHMEN was that extensive, I seriously doubt that all he did as editor was sit there and say "That's great, Alan" to everything Moore came up with. As someone involved with the original story, I'd say Wein has far greater ethical standing to do a WATCHMEN prequel than the rest of the creators who signed up for the cash grab. Mike
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#595664 - 02/03/12 02:18 PM
Re: DC Announces Watchmen Prequel(s)
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When Watchmen first came out, and after you read it, did any of you wish the story would continue? No. I thought it was excellent, I thought Moore concluded it well, and then I was ready to read something else. I did not feel cheated because we didn't know what Jim Lee would tell us about that one time in 1973 that Nite-Owl and Rorschach beat up some some muggers in an alleyway.
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#595665 - 02/03/12 02:28 PM
Re: DC Announces Watchmen Prequel(s)
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As someone involved with the original story, I'd say Wein has far greater ethical standing to do a WATCHMEN prequel than the rest of the creators who signed up for the cash grab. Respectfully, I disagree. Wein is ignoring the declared wishes of someone he personally worked with on the book, as compared to the other chuckle-heads, who may have been in grade school at the time. That does not make him more ethical in my view. As for Wein's editor's title making him uniquely qualified to replace Moore as writer, hogwash. I've no idea who edited the manuscript of To Kill A Mockingbird before it was published. But I wouldn't find that anonymous editor any better suited to replace Harper Lee against her wishes as writer on To Kill A Mockingbird 2: Atticus In Law School.
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#595667 - 02/03/12 02:37 PM
Re: DC Announces Watchmen Prequel(s)
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The only thing I wanted to know more about was The Minutemen. I really like that era so it would have been fun to have Moore's full take on it.
Aside from that though, I feel like Moore covered all the important parts of the various era's of the characters, either with flashbacks or dialogue. We know pretty much all there is to know about Dan.
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#595668 - 02/03/12 02:45 PM
Re: DC Announces Watchmen Prequel(s)
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The only thing I wanted to know more about was The Minutemen. I really like that era so it would have been fun to have Moore's full take on it. Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons originally kicked around the idea for a small prequel project featuring the Minutemen, but it did not come to pass. Moore quickly moved onto other things. I believe some of the material for that proposed story ended up in a Watchmen role-playing game in the late 1980s, which a buddy of mine owned at the time. It was fun, as far as that goes. More biographical information and all that. I didn't weep for the loss of the prequel, though.
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#595669 - 02/03/12 02:51 PM
Re: DC Announces Watchmen Prequel(s)
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Alan Moore's take: Mr. Moore, who has disassociated himself from DC Comics and the industry at large, called the new venture “completely shameless.”
Speaking by telephone from his home in Northampton, England, Mr. Moore said, “I tend to take this latest development as a kind of eager confirmation that they are still apparently dependent on ideas that I had 25 years ago.”
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While he was unaware of DC’s specific plans for Before Watchmen, Mr. Moore said he has over the years resisted overtures from the publisher to approve sequel or prequel projects.
Still, Mr. Moore said he was unlikely to stand in the way of Before Watchmen or to fight the project in court, where he said DC Comics would meet him with an “infinite battery of lawyers.”
“I don’t want money,” he said. “What I want is for this not to happen.”
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“As far as I know,” he said, “there weren’t that many prequels or sequels to ‘Moby-Dick.’ ” Jonathan Lethem's take: The novelist Jonathan Lethem admitted in a telephone interview to “an instinctive, protective scorn” of any effort to revisit Watchmen.
“That story was absolutely consummate and an enunciation as complete as any artwork in any realm,” he said. “And it’s just inviting a disgrace, basically, to try to extend any aspect of it.”
Yet, Mr. Lethem added, the referential nature of the original Watchmen — which was inspired by earlier superhero characters and drew upon a grab bag of influences, including the Bible, the sonnets of Shelley and “The Threepenny Opera” to tell its story — begged for the graphic novel to be reinterpreted.
“In the greater scheme of things,” he said, “there’s an ecological law, almost, that it ought to be.”
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