While almost everyone who posts here is a much nicer person than myself, I realize there aren't many here who are very religious.

Republicans are often called "Values Voters" because they claim to be Christians.

At the same time, it's been demonstrated that there are no Republican politicians who would dare to speak against their spiritual leader, Rush Limbaugh.

I don't know if Rush Limbaugh claims to be a Christian. He is not one. There's nothing but the filthiness of excrement inside that man.

Yesterday, Rush went on his radio program and called the young woman who testified before a House panel regarding the importance of contraception a "slut" and a "prostitute."

Today, Rush went on air and took it even further, saying that if she's going to get taxpayer funded contraception, she should post videos of herself having sex online so that he could see them.

I saw the video of him saying these words. The expression on his face is mean and cruel, and there's the kind of evil in his voice that comes from carnal lust.

The values of the man who spoke these lines are not Christian values.

You can't listen to this-- and I mean listen to it, not just hear it-- and be a Christian.

People like Rush Limbaugh want to convince people our President is not a Christian, that he is not even really an American.

I'm saying that Rush Limbaugh is not a Christian, nor are his listeners.

Finally, I know I'm preaching to the choir here-- though most of y'all are too nice (or too disinterested in religion) to say these things.

I'm saying them because I want to condemn anyone who calls themselves a Republican and a Christian and doesn't drive this man and his kind out of the party.

God Damn each and every one of you. I hate you for what you are doing to this country.

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As a Christian, Carlton, let me just say: I agree with you.

However, according to people like Rick Santorum and Pat Robertson, United Methodists such as myself are not Christians either.

My definition of a Christian: someone who both believes in Christian metaphysics AND makes an effort to follow Christ's teachings. Both are necessary, belief and sincere attempts at a Christ-like life. Regardless of denomination, if you don't do both, you're not a Christian.

If you say, "I like the philosophy that is attributed to the alleged Jesus", you're not a Christian.

If you say, "I'm a devout _________ (insert denomination), but I don't see why I should help others", you're not a Christian.

Jesus will decide who spends eternity with Him, and the rest will indeed be damned.

I can agree with you and Carlton about what a poor excuse for a human being Rush Limbaugh is, but this idea of eternal punishment for transgressors never seemed very 'christian' to me. Guess I won't be able to count myself among the saved!

Rush doesn't have a daughter, does he have sisters, a mom? He's had several wives.

Rush called what by all accounts, is pleasant young laws student, a "slut" for admitting she uses birth control? Even though something like ninety-eight percent of women use birth control at one time or another. Is Rush's own wife a slut? Does his wife use contraceptives, or are we to assume that they don't have sex, because he's been married several times for many years, but has no children to show for it. So they must not be having sex, because using contraception is a sin and sex for any reason other than procreation is a sin too right?

It seems to me there are always some people that feel anyone disagreeing with their religion is an abomination, and by "disagree" I mean even merely existing and not living by their rules is somehow an attack on their religious freedom. And any attack no matter how rude or even slanderous, on these people is justified. And in some cases they felt obligated.

As someone of no religious faith, I realized long ago that there is no connection between religion and morality.

There are nice religious people whose faith prompts them to do good in the world, and there are self-righteous assholes who rationalize their shabby behavior by praising Jeebus.

The Catholic Church child-sex scandals are enough to show us what sort of awful activity men can justify to themselves if they are Christian and, therefore, saved by God.

Rush Limbaugh is not a good person in any useful sense of the word "good." I've no idea if he's a Christian -- I believe he says he is, and I don't read minds -- but to me, it's hardly the point. He's not kind, honest, tolerant or compassionate.

I'm one of "those people" Santorum talks about that went to college and lost my religion. I prefer to think of it as growing up and making up my own mind. He thinks it was brainwashing by liberals. Whatever.

But I've been asked by people about morality and atheism. How do you know right from wrong without religion. As if most people were not inherently empathetic and would never do the right thing unless their was a threat of Hell.

I've often wondered if people who seem to be so immoral but also so religious, and so conspicuously self-righteous are in fact, often sociopaths trying to hide behind the letter of religious laws, like some kind of video game cheat sheet, or walk through. They have no real feeling for what's right or wrong and they rely on doctrine alone as a guide, but being without empathy or any emotional connection to right and wrong, they frequently get tripped up in the actual practice.

I knew a woman who wouldn't help her cousin a single mother, (babysit, donate old baby clothes), all because she didn't want to reward her sin. Not being a religious person, but having been raised catholic I was struck by how cold this was, whatever happened to things like, "Judge not, lest ye be judged," “Whatsoever you do to the least of my people, that you do unto me,” crap like that? I'm not religious, but I would think most people would feel empathy toward their situation and want to help out. But here she HAD religion and all it's words of wisdom and was still heartless.

Well said, Lawson. But it turns out, the Bible contains many verses where Jesus himself lays out ways to know if someone is Christian or not. A simple public declaration is not enough, and, in fact, the body of Christ is supposed to be self-policing. There are times when Christians ARE called on to judge.

I remember the time I was best man at a wedding, where the bride was the daughter of the pastor of the church. To cut a long story short, I didn't feel like Dylan's Mr. Jones, I was more like Hawthorne's Young Goodman Brown. I saw so much hypocrisy on display I felt physically ill.

Jesus appeared out of nowhere and told me, "Carlton, you'd be better off going to hell than going to church." It turns out, he's got a special plan for what calls itself "Christian" but is not.

And you know, with him standing there, I just had to ask, "I thought Oral Roberts said you was 900 feet tall."

And he said, "Oral WHO?"

Because you know, he said, "Many shall stand before me and say, 'Lord, Lord, did we not heal the sick and raise the dead, and raise billions of dollars through our television ministries that provided us with a lavish lifestyle, in your name?' And I will say, depart from me, you workers of iniquity, for I never knew you."

When I was a kid, the first book of the Bible I ever read all the way through was the book of Revelation. It's like a freaking awesome Galactus story.

But I always wondered, how could there be the church it talks about in the last days, who worshiped the anti-christ, and still thought they were Christians.

Well, now I know. I don't call myself a Christian. I figure if Jesus Christ Lord God Almighty is going to take the time to come warn me himself in person, then hell no I ain't gonna mess with those people.

But there they are.

Oh, also, Ted-- right on.

Being a Christian means giving up everything you have to serve God. That doesn't mean poverty, but it does mean putting it all in his service.

God said, "You cannot serve both God and Money." You can't be a politician taking money from lobbyists and putting that ahead of the good of the American people. You can't be a slimy weasel doing a talk show saying anything to get more money. You can't work in private equity, amassing fortunes for some at the expense of others. You just can't do it.

Several advertisers have bailed on the NeoFascist's radio program in light of his hateful comments.

Proof of my suspicions that neither Limbaugh nor his followers are Christian will be found in the fact that none of them will repent of their sins. Instead, they will howl and cackle with the laughter of jackals and demons rejoicing in iniquity.

I always like linking to this article.

Of course, the problem is that modern American Christianity isn't a philosophy; it's a club. Which is probably good for Christianity... if it was taken seriously as a philosophy, you'd have to ask it questions like, "so your list of ten important things you have to know about morality finds time for working on Sundays and making gold statues, but not for rape or slavery?"