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#596448 - 03/14/12 12:50 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Joe Lee]
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You can make a quality period picture with some CGI just like you can make quality vegetarian food with BBQ. It all depends on the ability of the maker.
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#596450 - 03/14/12 01:57 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Joe Lee]
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Charles, we are talking about Allen. He probably thinks CGI was invented by a homosexual.

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#596451 - 03/14/12 02:26 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Charles Reece]
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Originally Posted By: Charles Reece
You can make a quality period picture with some CGI just like you can make quality vegetarian food with BBQ. It all depends on the ability of the maker.
Exactly!

So would you agree it's ridiculous to make claims to the effect all films that make use of CGI are inherently bad?


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#596452 - 03/14/12 07:57 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
So would you agree it's ridiculous to make claims to the effect all films that make use of CGI are inherently bad?

Yes. Good thing I didn't make that claim.
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#596456 - 03/14/12 10:28 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Yes. Good thing I didn't make that claim.
Did anyone claim you did? You said something like...

Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
...blah, blah blah. Liam Neeson didn't have a talk show anecdote because of green screens, blah, blah blah. Broadly speaking, that is what makes CGI suck.
And BTW I was asking Charles the question, not you.


Edited by Joe Lee (03/14/12 10:51 PM)

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#596457 - 03/14/12 10:51 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Joe Lee]
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Send him to the cornfield, Anthony. It'll be a good thing. A REAL good thing.

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#596459 - 03/14/12 11:31 PM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
Originally Posted By: Charles Reece
You can make a quality period picture with some CGI just like you can make quality vegetarian food with BBQ. It all depends on the ability of the maker.
Exactly!

So would you agree it's ridiculous to make claims to the effect all films that make use of CGI are inherently bad?



sure. however, i'd rather have bbq pork than the substitute and i've yet to see a modern digital epic look as good as a david lean film.
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#596461 - 03/15/12 12:13 AM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Charles Reece]
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You got that right.
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#596463 - 03/15/12 12:46 AM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Charles Reece]
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Originally Posted By: Charles Reece
... i've yet to see a modern digital epic look as good as a david lean film.
Isn't that more a testament to Lean, than anything else. Like you said, doesn't it depend more on the ability of the maker?

Plus it's a bit apples to oranges isn't it, David Lean adapting Charles Dickens' novels is less likely to need the type of special effects adapting Burrough's Barsoom novels would.

And Maybe it was wrong or unfair of me, but I wasn't expecting Lawrence of Arabia when I saw John Carter. I was hoping for something better than Green Lantern, or Cowboys & Aliens and what I saw was no worse or better than the last two live action Star Wars movies. But what do I know I liked the Dino De Laurentiis' Flash Gordon better than the last two live action SW movies. None of which were Lawrence of Arabia either, and I'm just guessing here but I'd bet no one expected them to be. “Sometimes you have to let art flow over you.”

Not that I wouldn't want to see an adaptation of Princess of Mars, that attempted to be near the quality of a David Lean film. I'm just not that hopeful.


Edited by Joe Lee (03/15/12 12:54 AM)

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#596464 - 03/15/12 12:57 AM Re: New John Carter trailer... [Re: Joe Lee]
Allen Montgomery Offline
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
Plus it's a bit apples to oranges isn't it

Holy shit. You, who can never resist an analogy (no matter how tenuous), call comparing films to other films "apples to oranges." Unbelievable.
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