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#597543 - 05/10/12 02:40 PM
Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen
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OK, you and Bu๑uel.
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#597545 - 05/10/12 02:50 PM
Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen
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So, I guess you're also probably lying about the whole Raimi thing. No, it's just quite tiresome talking with persons like you and Weemie who haven't been paying attention and now want details explained down to the subatomic level. Let's try this again. You've now claimed that James Cameron turned down the opportunity to direct a Spider-Man Movie, despite Sony being practically desperate for him to take the job. If that had happened, it would have been a really huge story in the late 90s after Titanic and "Cameron turned it down" would have been a constant refrain in virtually every article written about Raimi taking the job. I don't recall ever hearing that story and a cursory websearch doesn't turn up anything like that. Asking you where you got the idea that's the way it happened is not going down to the subatomic level. It's just going down to the average "Allen being willfully ignorant" level. So, where did this story about Cameron turning down Spider-Man come from? Besides your own ass, that is. Mike
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#597548 - 05/10/12 03:31 PM
Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_in_filmThe last sentence of the first paragraph: The rights to a motion picture based on Spider-Man were purchased in 1985 and moved through various production companies and studios, at one point having James Cameron to direct, before being secured by Sony Pictures Entertainment. From the "007 vs. Spider-Man" section: Columbia [a subsidiary of Sony] acquired the rights to all previous scripts in 2000, but exercised options only on the "Cameron Material" Let me know if you need any more help with your reading, Bungee.
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#597549 - 05/10/12 03:34 PM
Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/88Mph/news/?a=13149By the time Sony emerged with the rights, Cameron had already moved on to another endeavor: Titanic.
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#597550 - 05/10/12 03:43 PM
Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145487/triviaThe "top five" that Raimi referred to (listed in Variety, I believe): Sam Raimi was not Sony's first choice as director. Others considered were Tony Scott, Jan de Bont, Roland Emmerich, Ang Lee and David Fincher.
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#597551 - 05/10/12 03:45 PM
Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen
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http://www.teako170.com/spidey2.htmlFebruary 1999: "Here's where I am philosophically. I'm 44, I make a movie every two or three years -- it should be something that I create. I've always done that, with the exception of Aliens. The Terminator was my creation, so were Titanic and The Abyss. With the amount of time and energy that I put into a film, it shouldn't be somebody else's superhero. I don't want to labor in somebody else's house." March 1999: Marvel Enterprises has reached a settlement with Sony Pictures Entertainment.
Another interview with James Cameron showcased in CNN Custom News stated that despite the recent Marvel/Sony agreement, Stan Lee's pleas and his own previous enthusiasm for the character, Cameron has said he is no longer interested in the Spider-Man project.
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#597552 - 05/10/12 03:48 PM
Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen
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This was from the first page of a simple Google search, Bungee. I guess you were just being willfully ignorant or something.
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#597553 - 05/10/12 03:51 PM
Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen
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Yes, Allen, you continue to wonderfully demonstrate your willful ignorance. Or do you not notice that none of those citations support either of your original claims that Cameron turned down the opportunity to direct Spider-Man or that Sony's supposed desperation to work with Cameron was the main reason they went after the property in the first place?
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#597554 - 05/10/12 03:53 PM
Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen
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If you knew how to read, yes, those citations do.
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#597555 - 05/10/12 04:11 PM
Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen
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Yeah, that would be because he turned them down. Allen, I know your willful ignorance knows few if any bounds, but you do appear capable of reading and understanding the English language. You expressed two separate ideas in that sentence. 1. Sony offered Spider-Man to Cameron. 2. He turned them down. Again, nothing you've offered up supports either of those contentions. You didn't say "Cameron was no longer interested so Sony looked for someone else". You said... Yeah, that would be because he turned them down. And that's just something you pulled out of your ass. Mike
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