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#597359 - 05/07/12 03:50 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: MBunge]
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Originally Posted By: MBunge
Seriously. I mean, can you think of one other filmmaker who would have taken the window dressing character of Black Widow in Iron Man II and successfully made her so central to The Avengers?
I swear, the Russian interrogation scene was classic Whedon.

Much of what he writes, seem to me to be taking a standard cliché and making it work, or is using other peoples mistakes and showing them what they should have done. I almost wonder if the Russian interrogation scene, besides laying the groundwork for the later interrogations, I wonder if the scene was his answer to the Casino Royal chair torture scene.

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#597360 - 05/07/12 04:01 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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me and you and everyone else just want to go and see an entertaining film.

And you don't think there's been any market research done to support this?


And so what if there has been? Does it make the movie bad because they did some testing?

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#597361 - 05/07/12 04:01 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Talking about the Evil Dead movies and then selling him a couple hundred dollars of Spider-Man comics (right after he got hired) in the context of a comics shop probably does, however.
Yes and I'm sure there's a guy who considers himself an expert in real-estate development and hotel management because he shined Donald Trump's shoes one time, and hasn't ever missed an episode of the Apprentice.

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#597366 - 05/07/12 06:19 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Joe Lee]
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Whereas people who aren't deferential to your tastes are among other things, willfully deaf, gay (or as you would say "homo") and my favorite so far "hard-headed little bitches."

No, that's just you, Joe.
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#597367 - 05/07/12 06:23 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: MBunge]
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No, Allen, it doesn't. You gained about as much insight into the movie industry from that as I did interviewing Michelle Monaghan for a local charity event.


*YAWN*


Once again...

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Please delineate of what exactly it is that I have demonstrated ignorance. I know, "ignorant" is just a fun word to type.
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#597374 - 05/07/12 09:18 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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So...lots of people end up liking it.

Candy is popular, no doubt, but there's no equivalent to a dentist in this analogy.


Candy has a negative effect on those who eat too much of it. People go see a movie they enjoy...and there's no real downside to that.
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#597377 - 05/07/12 09:40 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Jimbo]
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Except that they have just participated in the perpetuation glossy emptiness. Why is America morbidly obese and more politically polarized than it has been in over a century? Because Americans are too busy with their CGI bullshit to pay attention.


(besides even getting into the comics-side geopolitics of how this movie came about)
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#597378 - 05/07/12 09:49 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
(besides even getting into the comics-side geopolitics of how this movie came about)


I'd like to hear more about these comics-side geopolitics of which you speak.
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#597380 - 05/07/12 09:51 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette]
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So would I.
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#597381 - 05/07/12 09:57 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Charles Reece]
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And who cares about Bane over numerous other Batman foes? Venom and Bane are bland villains, regardless of age, I do believe.


Venom is pretty bland character wise. But visually he's great, the mirror universe Spider-man. I liked how Raimi tried to make Brock more sympathetic by having Parker intentionally expose him.

Bane just looks like a juiced Mexican wreslter and was pretty one dimensional in Knightfall. But Bane is atleast known as "breaking" Batman, so he has that reputation already attached to him, he already looks and sounds pretty intimidating in the trailers.


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However, that's exactly what made the film OK, passable, but not much more. It's the exact problem with all the Marvel movies: very little individual style, just kind of bland.


I disagree. X-Men had a more SF feel to it.

Raimi's Spider-man seemed closer to the tone of the 60s stories than the Spider-man I grew up with.

I was never much a Thor reader but the film was awesome and had a mythical epic/tragedy quality to it.

Daredevil on the other hand didn't feel anything like the comic's character. And Punisher was too silly. The Lungren film was truer.

Ironman felt like a Downey vehicle.
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