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#597459 - 05/09/12 02:55 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
You've also yet to demonstrate how I am in any way ignorant, willfully or otherwise.


You do a fine job of that with every post like this, Allen. You speak authoritatively on subjects about which you know nothing and when called on it, offer up laughably pathetic justifications for your stridency.

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#597460 - 05/09/12 03:16 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: MBunge]
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Hey! Allen sold gay porn to Kevin Spacey! HE KNOWS HOLLYWOOD, OK?!

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#597461 - 05/09/12 03:22 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Lawson]
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Originally Posted By: Lawson
Hey! Allen sold gay porn to Kevin Spacey!


Who hasn't?

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#597462 - 05/09/12 05:01 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery

Not really. The swordsman in RotLA is just some random character, so his inconsequential end is fitting. Loki was the main villain, the build to his actually doing something took two hours and then... that happened. It was funny in the moment, but thinking about it further — as one would have hoped they'd do in the months it likely took them to generate the imagery — it doesn't hold up. Lessened an already shallow experience.


It WAS funny in the moment! But most people don't look beyond that and they're perfectly content. I'm not saying there's a right way or a wrong way to watch a film, just that most folks aren't going to be as concerned over anything deeper that what happened then and there.
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#597463 - 05/09/12 05:32 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: MBunge]
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Originally Posted By: MBunge
You speak authoritatively on subjects about which you know nothing

There's some irony, man.
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#597464 - 05/09/12 05:35 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Lawson]
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Originally Posted By: Lawson
Hey! Allen sold gay porn to Kevin Spacey! HE KNOWS HOLLYWOOD, OK?!

What Jean Epstein films have you seen?
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#597465 - 05/09/12 05:36 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Jimbo]
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But most people don't look beyond that and they're perfectly content.

Yes, most people are apparently content with feature-length cereal commercials. The problem with that, however, is the constant need for more-more-more.
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#597467 - 05/09/12 06:02 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
What Jean Epstein films have you seen?


Asked and answered. Do I stutter?

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#597468 - 05/09/12 06:05 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Lawson]
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No, you don't stutter, but you don't answer questions. How many? Which ones?
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#597469 - 05/09/12 06:43 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Whedon is (or now perhaps was) a middle-level player in Hollywood,


Now this is idiotic. Even I've heard of his work and I almost never see movies. "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", "Firefly", "Toy Story", Wikipedia lists even more stuff going back to "Roseanne". His work on "Speed", "Waterworld", "X-Men" all predate "Iron Man" as the catalyst you insist made him get the job.

And that's not counting his work in comics, the medium that's been such favorites of moviemakers for years now. But apparently he told Marvel/Disney/Hollywood he was going to direct "The Avengers" and, being the middle-level player you insist he was, they handed over the keystone of the expensive franchise without hesitation.
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