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#597470 - 05/09/12 06:48 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Lawson]
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Originally Posted By: Lawson
Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
What Jean Epstein films have you seen?


Asked and answered. Do I stutter?


I think JB hacked into Lawson's Comicon account! RUN!!!

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#597475 - 05/09/12 09:10 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.]
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I found this, it's an open letter from Whedon to fans but it kinda sorta addresses the alan montgomerys of the world too...

http://blastr.com/2012/05/read-joss-whedons-love-le.php

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#597476 - 05/09/12 09:31 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery

Yes, most people are apparently content with feature-length cereal commercials. The problem with that, however, is the constant need for more-more-more.


How is people enjoying something and wanting more of it a problem?

It's not like it's cocaine or as you mentioned earlier, candy. I'm trying to understand the negative effect.
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#597477 - 05/09/12 09:34 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Joe Lee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
http://blastr.com/2012/05/read-joss-whedons-love-le.php

He's admitting what I'm saying here.

Originally Posted By: Joss Whedon
If you think topping a box office record compares with someone telling you your work helped them through a rough time, you're probably new here.

Uh-huh. If you feel like you have to say it, you probably don't mean it.

Like I said, the guy is a sad suck-up.
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#597478 - 05/09/12 09:35 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Jimbo]
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Originally Posted By: Jimbo
I'm trying to understand the negative effect.

Crowding out.
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#597479 - 05/09/12 09:39 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: ChrisW]
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Originally Posted By: ChrisW
[Whedon's notoriety] predate[s] "Iron Man" as the catalyst you insist made him get the job.

Did Whedon conceive the franchise mash-up, or was he hired afterwards?


Originally Posted By: ChrisW
But apparently he told Marvel/Disney/Hollywood he was going to direct "The Avengers" and, being the middle-level player you insist he was, they handed over the keystone of the expensive franchise without hesitation.

Sony spent millions to get the rights to Spider-Man cleared to make the first movie, because they (mistakenly) thought James Cameron was still attached to it. What had Sam Raimi done at that point?
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#597480 - 05/09/12 09:43 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Originally Posted By: Jimbo
I'm trying to understand the negative effect.

Crowding out.


Forgive me, I don't follow. Could you elaborate a little more?
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#597481 - 05/09/12 09:48 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Lawson]
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Originally Posted By: Lawson
Finis Terrae, for a start, to name just one classic you inexplicably left off your list above.

Somewhat slow-paced, with a very thin plot. Some very sophisticated camera work and editing, given the era. It's disconcerting that Epstein would follow House of Usher with something this threadbare, while Buñuel followed with Un Chien Andalou and L'Age D'Or.

And now that I've seen Finis Terrae, I've seen two more Epstein films than you have.
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#597482 - 05/09/12 09:50 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Jimbo]
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Originally Posted By: Jimbo
Forgive me, I don't follow. Could you elaborate a little more?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowding_out_(economics)
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#597483 - 05/09/12 09:56 PM Re: John Byrne hates Avengers movie he hasn't seen [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Originally Posted By: Jimbo
Forgive me, I don't follow. Could you elaborate a little more?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowding_out_(economics)


Blind me with science will you, Montgomery?!

Just kidding. French folks aren't going to stop making their fancy films. People wants what they wants, I guess.
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