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#598596 - 06/18/12 03:59 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN: MINUTEMAN #1 [Re: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette]
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Originally Posted By: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette
You guys know Allen has posted a bunch of his work on this site, right?

Yeah, their behavior is quite baffling.
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#598597 - 06/18/12 04:07 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN: MINUTEMAN #1 [Re: MBunge]
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Originally Posted By: MBunge
Hmm. I think I see why he wants to avoid putting any of it in this thread.

Predictable troll is predictable.
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#598598 - 06/18/12 04:14 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN: MINUTEMAN #1 [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Originally Posted By: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette
You guys know Allen has posted a bunch of his work on this site, right?

Yeah, their behavior is quite baffling.


This is the thread where you've attacked Cooke. This is the thread where you've used your own artwork to justify that attack. At least putting a link so people reading this thread can see your art is pretty standard for the internet, even for jackasses like you.

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#598599 - 06/18/12 04:17 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN: MINUTEMAN #1 [Re: MBunge]
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Originally Posted By: MBunge
This is the thread where you've attacked Cooke.

No, this is the thread where I point up the poor quality of Cooke's participation in the attack on Alan Moore.


Originally Posted By: MBunge
This is the thread where you've used your own artwork to justify that attack.

Not in any way, shape or form is that assertion even remotely true.
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#598600 - 06/18/12 04:20 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN: MINUTEMAN #1 [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Originally Posted By: MBunge
Hmm. I think I see why he wants to avoid putting any of it in this thread.

Predictable troll is predictable.


Allen, your art isn't awful by amateur standards. It doesn't look like something from a 6 year old with a crayon. If some young kid took it to a convention for an evaluation, the pro probably wouldn't laugh in his face.

But by professional artist standards? Real artist standards? Compared to the efforts of Cooke? Your art is fairly poor. I can see why you felt confident in boasting that no one can see any artistic influences in your work. Your technique is too crude to show any influences. Even that Byrne-clone who did Freak Force 20 years ago for Image was a superior artist to you because even such a slavish imitation required far more talent and skill than your work shows.

And yes, I'm just ignoring the irony overload of Allen calling anyone else a predictable troll.

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#598601 - 06/18/12 04:23 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN: MINUTEMAN #1 [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Originally Posted By: MBunge
This is the thread where you've attacked Cooke.

No, this is the thread where I point up the poor quality of Cooke's participation in the attack on Alan Moore.


Originally Posted By: MBunge
This is the thread where you've used your own artwork to justify that attack.

Not in any way, shape or form is that assertion even remotely true.


Can I get a ruling here? Does anyone think Allen calling Cooke a "piece of shit" does not qualify as an attack? Does anyone think he's being at all reasonable in pretending that he didn't refer to the nature of his own art to justify his attack? Anyone? Bueller?

Mike

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#598602 - 06/18/12 05:16 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN: MINUTEMAN #1 [Re: MBunge]
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Originally Posted By: MBunge
Does anyone think Allen calling Cooke a "piece of shit" does not qualify as an attack?

Even I have explicitly said that is an intentional insult.


Originally Posted By: MBunge
Does anyone think he's being at all reasonable in pretending that he didn't refer to the nature of his own art to justify his attack?

Please point to where I have ever compared my work to Cooke's.
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#598606 - 06/18/12 06:23 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN: MINUTEMAN #1 [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
Please point to where I have ever compared my work to Cooke's.


What was the purpose of YOU bringing up YOUR artwork in this thread if there was not some connection to your adolescent ragging on Cooke? Especially since you obviously aren't all that proud of it in the first place.

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#598608 - 06/18/12 06:58 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN: MINUTEMAN #1 [Re: MBunge]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Lee
What's sad is that your arguments always follow the same pattern.

You dismiss solid arguments as exceptions, while allowing the opposition no exceptions, you often make subtle changes to your arguments, softening your terms over time, to make the arguments more defensible.


You forgot that he demands the person he's arguing with provide nonexistent evidence - artwork he won't show, a screenplay that's not written - to prove him wrong even though he never provides the slightest evidence that he's right.
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#598610 - 06/18/12 07:53 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN: MINUTEMAN #1 [Re: ChrisW]
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Too bad (for you) that Larsen admitted to copying Byrne.
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